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Imagine if instead of spending a fortune incarcerating people we use it to make it so people didn't have to resort to this kind of desperation.
I'm sure that we can arrest our way out of homelessness though! We just haven't tried hard enough.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen @wintermute_oregon Homelessness is a complex issue caused by economic issues, broken homes, drug use, etc.
Simplistic solutions probably won't be able to resolve a problem with complex.
A simplistic solution is having people live on the streets. That's what we already do.
I really have no idea why you thought to verbalize that.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen That's not a solution at all, that's a symptom of the problem.
Root causes are what gets people into that situation, as I've mentioned above.
Cool. Glad you contributed that. I had no idea that people had reasons for being homeless.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen You're welcome! ☺️ It's always something to consider when people say "just give the homeless money!" or "just give the homeless people houses!"
I'd love if you point out where I said that.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen I got the impression that you meant something along those lines when you said:
> make it so people didn’t have to resort to this kind of desperation.
Did you mean something different?
I meant exactly what I said.
You can always go back and reread it if you're confused.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen I'm not confused at all. Are you confused?
Then I assume the only ways you can think the government can spend money is either giving it directly or arresting people.
What was that about simplistic solutions again?
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen That's generally what people who say things like that mean, yes. Thus my complaint about simplistic solutions.
Did you have a different proposal?
How about getting people the help they need to deal with those issues that you mentioned instead of throwing them in a cage and making it harder for them to be a productive member of society?
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen Like rehab, job training, or mental health services for the homeless? I could definitely get on board with something like that.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen @realcaseyrollins
People who are broken do not change.
What a smart thought-terminating cliche.
You have so much to teach us.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen
lol
I mean that's just factually wrong but ok
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It's useful to identify brand new accounts.
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For those that don't use Voyager, it is helpful to comment identifying them as such, so others are more wary.
Have a great day!
@amerika @LookBehindYouNowAndThen They never ever change? There's no way that's true.
I just shared a post with an IRL friend about a dude who was homeless and on #heroin and once he got clean, he got a #ComputerScience degree with a 4.0 GPA.
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7170893355210489857/
@realcaseyrollins @LookBehindYouNowAndThen
Anecdotal evidence is dubious, and you probably want to follow over time.
Then there is the question: was he broken, or just having a bad time in the short term?
@amerika @LookBehindYouNowAndThen I remember watching #KattWilliams' appearance on #BillMaher's podcast #ClubRandom, where he talked about the time when he was homeless, and how almost all the other homeless people around him were basically normal people who got hooked in drugs and lost everything. This convinced him to not do drugs.
Maybe this dude was such a man.
@realcaseyrollins @LookBehindYouNowAndThen
That must have been quite a shock, but it's not against conventional wisdom.
People on addictive drugs have their lives collapse and end up living under a bridge.
This is why we used to call the homeless "winos," because they were basically sad broken alcoholics.