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That's the argument. On one side it's "Here's a heap of statistics, and testimonials from Vets about how this breed was bred for fighting and is extremely dangerous to humans" and on the other side:
"Says the guy who probably tortures animals".
So, of course it's nasty. People who have actually been attacked by pitbulls, mauled and disabled by them, are fighting fucking morons. Really, really stupid people that care more about dogs than humans.
While I agree that pits have the capability to fuck your shit up 6 ways before you can blink, and along with breeds like the Pug should just be allowed to die off with the current generation, you are using a common tactic of "I'll use the best argument to represent my side, and the worst argument to represent their side so it's clear my side is superior" as a generalization for the entire opposing viewpoint.
Straw men blow away in strong winds. Build better arguments, you'll make better points.
Is it a strawman if someone came and specifically argued that?
It's a strawman if it's presented as "the argument of that side", yes.
Let's try arguing fair then. I'll start with one fact. There is no such breed as a pit bull. Now you go 😉.
Ok, then the pit bull type dogs should be banned since their attacks are more vicious than any other type of dog.
Well ok lol. Then my argument is, I disagree with you, I don't even know if you understand what a logical argument is.
According to who the United Kennel club and the American Breeders association all recognize the breed. The American Kennel association does not. Or is it because the full name is not being used sorry the American Pit Bull Terrier.
I always look at these posts of people writing about pit bulls out of a place of fear. And just shake my head. But the post I replied to talked about logic, and research. So let's logic.
Top Google search,Wikipedia "Pit bull is an umbrella term for several types of dog believed to have descended from bull and terriers.
"Pit bulls" are the most abundant dogs in the United states. The most common mutt is called a "Pit Bull". Everyone who is afraid of dogs these days think Pit Bulls. I remember when it used to be German Shepards. People afraid of dogs would say German Shepards are evil dogs bred to hunt people.
Don't be ruled by fear. Dogs are dogs. They are domesticated carnivores, and unknown dogs need to be treated with caution. You never know if they've been abused or have behavioral issues.