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This BBC title is a click bait. It should have in the headlines a disclaimer that the person was using heavy drugs. The article says:
"When she arrived at hospital seeking treatment, Poolaw admitted to using illicit drugs while pregnant.
Later, the medical examiner's report, obtained by the BBC, found traces of methamphetamine in her unborn son's liver and brain.
The examiner did not determine a cause of death for the foetus, noting genetic anomaly, placenta abruption or maternal methamphetamine use could have been contributing factors."
And why should that be a manslaughter charge? It's a fucking fetus.
Because she's a meth addict and they've worked hard to ensure she'll be beneath empathy for many folks.
At 23/24 weeks of life a fetus has 55% - 70% of chance of surviving outside the mother as a regular human. Source: Wikipedia
I don't know how old the fetus is, but if it was more than 23 weeks old, it is a human too.
I would probably be accused of manslaughter if I injected methamphetamine on you during your sleep and you died from that.
The article says she was at 16-17 weeks
Yes, you are right. It says this on the end of the article:
"Poolaw was about 16 to 17 weeks pregnant when she miscarried - probably the earliest term pregnant woman to be charged in the US, according to Ms Sussman. "
Except addiction is a disease, injecting a pregnant person while they sleep is textbook assault. If the disease wasn't addiction would the mother still be culpable? What if a pregnant person has a disease but the treatment will cause a miscarriage. Just because she is/was an addict doesn't mean you can just write her off.
My jizz has a pretty good chance of surviving as a human too if met with an egg, but we don't charge people for cumming on a woman's back
Your jizz has a chance greater than 50% of surviving as a human only after the 23rd week after finding an egg, and only if you don't abort it before
I meant in general, not outside of the mother, but my point is that we don't have any obligation to create a human at any stage of the process. And we especially shouldn't have any obligation to succeed
That's your opinion. This topic is difficult to get everybody on the same page and get enough votes to get a nationwide change, so the best is If the opinions of people living in Texas doesn't get imposed on people living in California and vice versa.
That's why it's better if the voting regarding rules about this is done state-wide, and not nation wide. At this level you have more chance of getting what you want.
Yup, and look at all the people raging in the comments that clearly didn't even get past the headline.
yea or maybe they read far enough down the bbc article to see the string of historical examples. or maybe just the general context of this being published 2 years ago, and the criminalization of miscarriage has gotten way more prevalent. disingenuous af