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PSA: every interaction you make with various posts on kbin is viewable to everyone. (kbin.social)

submitted 2 years ago by zeste@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social

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If you click on the "more" button under a comment or link there will be an activity tab. In this tab you can see everyone who has boosted, favourited or reduced the post. I'm not sure if this a
Is a good feature but it's interesting to see when someone decides to reduce all of your content for no reason.

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[–] Melpomene@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good discussion, there. I like the idea of allowing it to be set per instance; while it doesn't hide the votes from admins, changing the in-instance presentation of the data does allow an instance to customize the "feel" of the instance... much like Beehaw chooses not to use downvotes at all.

I'm on the fence re displaying them. I use the downvotes activity to search for bots / astroturfers and it DOES allow identification of bigots who downvote for that reason, but it also does provide a means of harassing someone for a downvote.

Really, a cultural shift from "Downvote = disagree" to "Downvote =Anti-factual, low effort, or bot" is needed.

Maybe making upvotes counter downvotes is a decent start? Right now, kbin is weighted toward downvotes; some users with thousands of upvotes and hundreds of downvotes are sitting in the negatives.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Kbin uses boosts as upvotes for their karma calculation, which is why you see the QI style scoring. Strange system.

[–] Melpomene@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, that I get... it's just not intuitive for users. If downvote = -1 rep, then most people are going to assume that upvote = +1 rep, with boost being something like a "look at this post" option. But maybe that's just me?

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree with you. It doesn't make sense to me. If it was me it would be =If(or(boost=1,upvote=1), karma=karma+1,karma=karma)

[–] ernest@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is a consequence of recent changes. It has already been fixed on the test instances. The changes will soon be implemented on kbin.social

[–] Melpomene@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

You're the programming man!

[–] VerifiablyMrWonka@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is bug. It's fixed in dev. Shortly before the great migration started a change was made to bring kbin in line with lemmy but the bit that calculated the "karma" was missed and so it still uses boosts.

Not that I agree with the concept of karma.

[–] Melpomene@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Though I was skeptical at first, I much prefer the "positive votes only" style that some Lemmy instances use. If you don't have anything nice to say, etc etc etc. Downvotes, at least, seem to suppress peoples' willingness to discuss controversial opinions.

[–] ShadowRunner@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I understand, but it also makes it a lot more difficult to quickly make trolling and spam disappear.

[–] patchw3rk@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've had some time to think about it and I think I actually like the current setup. "Boost" provides more visibility to a post, while "upvote" and "downvote" is synonymous with agree/disagree.

In a way, I can disagree with someone AND boost it. Disagreeing with someone doesn't have to be hostile. I think it would be healthy if a community could disagree with each other in a civil manner.

I also like that if someone disagrees, that person cannot influence if the post gets less visibility.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Except downvoting does reduce content's visibility, and people are downvoting content that they don't really have anything to do with because it shows up in their All feed. Certain niche magazines and magazines for vulnerable communities are at risk of vote bullying in the current system.