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Highly recommend checking out wefwef - closest option to an Apollo clone as I've seen so far in terms of UI and functionality, and doesn't even need to be installed. Memmy is a very good second place option, but I've been using wefwef since I heard about it yesterday and ZI think it's better.
It's good but laggy. Swiping doesn't feels native unfortunately.
Are you using it as an installed PWA? I’m not having any issues with animations or scrolling. I have run into a few weird UI bugs with slide up menus within communities, but that’s about it.
As the Memmy dev I can also highly recommend wefwef. Great product for such a short lifespan.
Quick question: I noticed the API calls aren't (weren't?) compressed, is that on purpose?
Going outbound or inbound? Outbound the requests are super basic, inbound they are pretty large. There’s a lot of limitations on that.
For example to get basic user info you have to receive a bunch of other information that you’re not going to bother using. Hopefully in time this will get changed, because there’s no reason to be receiving so much data whenever you really only need a few bytes.
the json coming back from requests like showing a thread was not compressed when I checked yesterday (firefox on ubuntu): https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/1a99e758-deaa-46f6-8eff-3aa2158858ad.png
but I just checked again and now it's correctly responding with compression (chrome on windows)
Ohh you’re referring to wefwef. I’m not the wefwef dev, I’m the memmy dev. Thought you were talking about API calls memmy makes.
oh shit sorry, apparently I can't read worth a damn
Hahaha no problem. I make the same mistakes all the time.
The fact that you’re not just actively engaging here, but advocating another route, makes me want memmy on apple.
The key to making Lemmy work in my opinion is being a real community. That means having everyone help out in any way they can and working together. Memmy alone can never fill all the gaps, nor can anything else. A wide selection of options is key to getting more people on board.
Already we are seeing varying designs and implementations, and that is great since users definitely don’t want to be locked in to a single option. Glad to see it.
Memmy is on Apple, in fact I think it’s only on Apple?
Memmy is on apple. Want no longer.
I love your app
https://i.gifer.com/3WXo.gif
Thanks for all you’re doing!
I do have installed as a PWA, and although I’m really liking it visually, it’s a bit buggy. I’d like to know if the bugginess is because of its beta status or the fact that it’s not native.
If it’s the latter, it’d be unfortunate since it’s making my switch to Lemmy so much smoother as I feel like I’m using Apollo, which I’m very used to.
It's probably a bit of both - wefwef has been around for literally just days at this point I believe, so I have high hopes it will continue to improve.
Beyond that, there are a lot of people who feel Apollo is/was the best user experience for Reddit, and there will be a LOT of devs trying to emulate that - one way or another, we're going to get a high-quality Apollo replacement eventually.
Thats's fair, most, if not all, of these apps has just started development, and it's pretty impressive what they've accomplished so far.
Right now I feel like when Mastodon started to grow exponentially last year, all of a sudden there were a ton of new pretty good clients. I can see something similar happening here.
I gotta say tho that although using wefwef is helping me getting used to not open Apollo, I think it would be really great if it grows to become its own thing once the platform matures.
I just did the PWA install today and it definitely fixes the glitchy swipes.
IDK maybe I am being paranoid here :) Mlem feels smoother for me. It may be about frame rate too. I'm using 14 Pro and it has 120hz as I know.
Yeah I can also see that animations aren't as smooth as Mlem or other native apps, but it's not bad enough that it bothers me. On an 14 Pro also.
I imagine this has to do with the fact that PWAs likely don't have access to full hardware acceleration for graphics, but I also don't know enough about PWAs and iOS to know for sure.
I started with Mlem and wasn’t a huge fan and was primarily using Memmy. But I decided to try mlem again as it’s been a while and it looks much better! Might be my new daily driver. I’ll give wefwef a try too.
Yeah like a week after I joined they completely changed the display, and it’s been my heavy hitter. Wefwef feels like I never left Apollo though.
Wow WefWef as a PWA is super nice.
It’s great, but I really wish it had the equivalent of Apollo’s “compact” mode!
They just shipped it minutes ago! Second release in less than 24h lol
It's there now!
It worked for me once I logged in.
Lemmy.world is apparently rate limiting the wefwef.app domain. They are working on resolving it. In the meantime you can try the suggested solutions in their community https://lemmy.world/post/801298
For example self hosting it or using other's publicly available versions of it like https://w.opnxng.com/ though you should always be cautious using other's instances.
Using it right now. So far it's nice. But I have like 7 plus the browser. See which becomes my default in time. I am just so used to RIF it's going take an adjustment.