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[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Aside from the hate crimes, mass shootings, and kicking queer kids out of the house that's standard in America, states like Florida have made it impossible for even many adults to get gender affirming care among other things. They want to impose their gender ideology everywhere they can and would not hesitate to pass federal bans on people like me. There are prominent, self proclaimed Christian nationalists in congress, and they are not a fringe minority. Almost half of Republicans believe America should reject secularism and officially become a Christian nation. The current Republican speaker of the House wants to get rid of the separation of church and state for crying out loud.

Christian nationalists want to do the same thing Islamic theocracies can do. They cheer whenever opposing fascists attack a common enemy. I take these evil bastards at their word. When a fascist tells you what they'll do with power, believe them. I'm not going to wait for the concentration camps and you shouldn't either. If you can't accept that a group is genocidal until they actually carry it out, you'll never do anything to prevent it. That would make you less than useless.

It's terrible that fascists like Hamas rule Gaza. No matter how much you want me to be a foolish queer who thinks Hamas are the good guys, that will never be the case. It would be great if you were to question why you assumed that, but you won't, because then you might realize how terrible it is that you're supporting genocide.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well I'm glad that you oppose Hamas, but you would not do well in any Arab country. However bad you believe Christians are in America if you were in any Muslim country they would literally kill you.

Gender transition has been legal in america for decades, the debates from Christians are if you can do it as a child, if you can do it for free... No one is trying to kill you at an organized level, there may be lone wolf terrorists like the Muslim who shot up the gay night club in Orlando but it's not like after that happened people were celebrating in the streets applauding what he did, how would you feel if after that gay night club shooting that people came out in the thousands to support him? No he was arrested and no one, not any christian endorsed it.

There are not Christians who say explicitly things like 'all people have to be Christians ' or 'we.should kill all gays', that is literally what they say in Muslim countries, that.all gays should be killed, that.all Jews should be killed, that all places.shouldnl follow Muslim law. There fighting is not the result of a brutal occupation, it is their ideaology and they are occupied and oppressed because of it, because of they weren't suppressed they'd be murderous.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Holy gaslighting Batman!

There are Christians, right now, in America, who do want me dead. It's not a hypothetical. Anti-trans activists don't want to stop at children. This was always a lie that dumbasses like you fell for. You fell for it because you're motivated to believe that Christians are better than Muslims. You just don't get that the policies of Sharia law would be popular on the right in America if they had a Christian coat of paint.

Republicans are all fascists. The only non fascist conservatives have been pushed out of the party. Liz Cheney? Primaried. Mitt Romney? Retiring. None of them are allowed to be moderate. In order to win, Republicans must support fascism. They are no less backwards than Iran. You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise. Trump, a monster that embodies every quality of the anti-Christ, is their messiah. America is in grave danger.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Christians are way better than Muslims, no matter what you show me the fact is in gaza you would be killed and children would dance around your dead body and the government would pay the people who killed you.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I can't convince you that Christian fascists are on the same level as Islamic fascists with any amount of evidence, your belief that Muslims are worse isn't one you got to through logic. You're simply a pathetic bigot who believes in the supremacy of Christianity over Islam. You desperately hold to the belief that Muslims are worse because it justifies their mistreatment. I don't care if Hamas would kill me in horrific fashion, because Christian fascists in my country openly want the same. It's functionally no different for me if a Muslim hangs me from a lamppost, or a Christian hangs me from a lamppost.

The persecution of queer people in Palestine can't be used to justify killing those very same people. Israel isn't helping queer civilians by bombing their homes and forcing them to die of dehydration. They don't want to be killed by Hamas, and they don't want to be killed by Israel. If I was a queer Palestinian, I would not appreciate you using me as a political prop to further the argument against my existence.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No Christians aren't actually hanging gays from lamp posts, Muslims are.

If you were a queer Palestinian you would try to get to america Israel.

But their treatment of queers aren't why they're being killed, they're being killed because they are openly at war and they are crying about retaliation , they absolutely refuse peace

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Of course! I can't complain about genocidal Christians until they actually gain power and institute the genocide they keep calling for. How could I be so stupid?

And the queer Palestinians just have to leave their homes if they want to live. Why didn't I think of that? They can't try to improve the country they were born in. The only way to combat fascism is from another country. If fascists gain power, you must give up on your country and leave. People who fight fascism from within a country deserve what they get.

Queer Palestinians are not part of Palestinians in some contexts while totally part of them in others. The anti-Hamas Palestinians deserve to die for even living under the regime, regardless of their support or actions taken against it. As already stated, as soon as fascists take power, you have to give up and leave your country. Anyone living under a fascist regime deserves death. The French resistance to Nazi occupation? Death. Jews that weren't able to foresee the Holocaust and leave before it happened? Too bad, get better at predicting the future.

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