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For Something To Be Known You Have To Say It, And Someone Else Has to See Someone Else See You Say It (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by FfaerieOxide@kbin.social to c/showerthoughts@kbin.social

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Fracturing communication channels hence makes it harder for things to be known (which was the point).

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[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Until You mentioned chimps I couldn't comprehend how someone was talking to animals to ask them anything, and I still ponder how effectively we can convey the syntax concept of a subjunctive "Where would Christine Look?" to chimps.

Are we sure for example the chimps aren't just getting "where" and "cookie" signs and answering correctly?

[–] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the study I read they considered animals to have failed the test if they found it funny that Christine looked in the first jar. Because it's "silly" for her to look there.

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That seem like a lot of conclusion to draw off a monkey laughing but I am not an ape expert.

What if Ari the Chimp is just That Guy You Know who finds weird shit funny?

[–] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I wish I could find the original paper. It made sense the way they explained it.

[–] octoperson@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Put them directly in the situation and see what they do. "That other chimp will beat my ass if I take the cookie. But he didn't see it get moved. He thinks it's over there but it's really here. I'm gonna grab it!"

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You know, I've never seen a chimp beat another chimp's ass and know I wonder what animal ass whoopings look like across various species.

NOT killing, that's easy. I just want to know what and animal getting it's ass beat is like for various animals. What do various species do when they want to hurt but not kill one another.

I also am not talking about fighting as with goats butting heads. That's sparring.

What does an animal do when another animal has it fucked up but not fucked up enough to try to kill it.

All I've seen is that GIF of the penguin shoving another penguin.
Guess I've also seen cats bat at one another.