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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 154 points 2 years ago (6 children)

"You wouldn't download a car, would you?" ... yes. Yes. I WOULD. Not that we can 3d print cars just yet. but I would in a heart beat if I could.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't trust a 3d printed gun, why would I trust a 3d printed car? But if I could make a car myself, I definitely would, even if I had to pirate the designs.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

3d printed firearms have transformed into a whole cottage industry with all sorts of variations. The ones that are safest are essentially just stocks capable of holding the parts of a firearm. The ones that are completely 3d printed are still pretty sketchy and illegal to sell

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Any firearm that you, a private citizen, manufacture, is illegal to sell.

You are not a licensed firearm distributor.

But, at least in most of the US, it is perfectly legal to manufacture them for your own use. You just can’t sell them.

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can sell homemade firearms you made for personal use and later decided to get rid of.

You cannot manufacture them for the purpose of sale, however.

[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That sounds like a pretty massive loophole...

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Why? What’s wrong with selling a gun you have made at home? It’s still subject to applicable law on private party transfers just like any other firearm.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

IIRC, it depends on state law too. Some states permit local sales, feds would stomp on you if you sold to a non-resident.

Probably best to avoid the selling part altogether. Ruby Ridge and all that.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

that's true. I should have specified that a lot of the purchasable (fully and unquestionably in the right) stuff just sell CAD files for 3d printed parts, or print the parts for you. The more questionable ones sell ghost gun kits

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is illegal for them to print the guns for you (unless they have their FFL; and Manufacturers license; and they NICs check you, and engrave a serial number, company name, and location of manufacture in accordance with ATF rules.) And the "ghost gun kits" are 80% complete lowers, which you have to mill the remaining bits yourself or else it is subject to all the above rules as well.

They can sell the .stl files though, or freely offer them.

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The thing people forget is that 3d printing doesn’t just enable the direct manufacturing of parts, it also enables the manufacturing of tooling for parts that would never have been manufacturable at home otherwise.

For example, you can rifle a metal tube and form a chamber using electro etching and printed tooling. Or, you can make tooling to make magazine springs

The key point to be made here is that a fully plastic gun is sketchy but 3d printing has absolutely transformed the ability to make reliable and effective firearms at home without any off the shelf firearm parts

The same type of thing is happening in the car hobbyist world. We aren’t printing cars but people are using prints to make molds, form sheet metal, align parts for weldments and manufacture low stress plastic parts like intake manifolds.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

Most dashboards in cars are already 3d printed.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

3d printing has come a long way, both in materials and quality. especially as you step away from FDM or resin printers. I certainly wouldn't trust a rando facebook marketplace printer who bought a creality to make a quick buck... but I would trust my own prints- mostly because I know what the materials are, and know I'll check for good print quality. reality is, though, that about the most you can print right now is a half baked golf cart chasis. if you want it to be safe... you're going to have to add a lot to it, and at that point, you might as well just buy a damn car or something.

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You wouldn't download a car, would you?

Movies studios now trying to download actors.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Unions stepping up to the at for us all.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

"Trying"?

They're working round the clock to develop CGI "actors".

Gonna be interesting when actors start being replaced.

[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Marcin Jakubowski is already doing this with Farming Equipment!

[–] psud@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Borderlands lets you download a car, that's the second best way of getting a car in the game

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

And when you download a car there's even a pimento taco -- a pimentaco -- in the glove box.

[–] AffineConnection@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

but I would in a heart beat if I could

with your 3-D printed heart

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Hey, don’t knock it. My head lays down a sick dun step, some reggae and this weird steel drum Tropicana thing I’m pretty sure they ripped off some 90’s on hold music cover

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

If I had a dollar for every car I downloaded for GTA4..