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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yes, we get it, the response to literally every decision you don't like is massacre of the people you don't like

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are you aware of what depleted uranium does to the human body? Innocent people are going to be dealing with the consequences of a decision made by a handful of people across the planet for decades after the war ends. Does poisoning generations of people sound like "defending" Ukrainians to you?

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

But Depleted uranium isn't enriched uranium.

You're lying.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 66 points 2 years ago

depleted uranium is a radioactive carcinogen, and linked to substantial increases in birth defects and cancer in Iraq

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who said it was? It's still an environmental contaminant, a carcinogen, and linked to a rise in birth defects after its use in Iraq

It's use will have consequences far outside of the conflict and ruin the lives of who knows how many people who had absolutely no say in this war and I'm supposed to cheer it on?

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, but why are you upset about this particular heavy metal as opposed to all the others involved in weapons?

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The op is specifically about depleted uranium but hey, if you want to make the case that we shouldn't be sending weapons to Ukraine in the first place I'm not going to argue against it shrug-outta-hecks

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In that case, why do you pretend to care only about certain weapons when you don't want any weapons sent?

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you tankies seem particularly mad about the use of agent orange in vietnam when what you really want is for the US to pull out, huh smuglord

pee pee poo poo

[–] SpanishSpaceAgency@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oooh you really got him there countdown

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago

Depleted uranium is still a very dangerous heavy metal. It just doesn't irradiate what it poisons.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)
  1. Yes, I'm aware of the effects of depleted uranium on the human body; are you? 2) What would you propose to help Ukraine evict the genocidal invaders from its territory?
[–] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now we're just throwing genocide into the mix?

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Non radioactive munitions.

Show this thread to someone from the 1980s and they would kill themselves. Mainly over your shit

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What a compelling response 🙄

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No analysis, just vibes. Gonna go genocide some mashed potatoes rn

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just stepped in someones front yard without permission, which is technically an invasion, and ive been told this is tantamount to genocide. Am I an imperialist war criminal, Hexbear?

[–] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

Guilty of all charges. peppino-snitch

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -3 points 2 years ago

Sounds like a typical fash pastime

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

What would you propose to help Hawaii evict genocidal invaders from its territory?

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seeing one thing Hm, this is like every thing

-The Eternal Lib

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's almost like I've seen this same redfash response multiple times 🤔

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What can I say we like methods that get results edgeworth-shrug

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's almost like my original comment was correct

[–] ThisMachineKillsFascists@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your original comment was word salad.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -3 points 2 years ago

Just because you can't understand it, doesn't mean it's word salad comrade

[–] ThisMachineKillsFascists@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Redfash one hell of an oxymoron considering the reds are in the habit of killing fash.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -2 points 2 years ago

That's what they want us to think, anyway

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -2 points 2 years ago

There are complications, but a dialectical analysis shows that redfash are indeed fascists, and there's no need for Holocaust denial to say so

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"You are treating a specific example like a broad generalization to deflect someone's valid point"

vs.

"Heard that one before smuglord"

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago

Fallacy of the beard. Marx's beard, even.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What do you think should be done with war profiteers that destroy societies for money?

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's a tankie, that's their answer to everything they can't strawman around.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

pretty funny coming from a dronie

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, "dronie" would be the correct term a tankie would use for a person who supports a country that was invaded by fascists defending themselves.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only fascists in this conflicts are the ones you support, they're pretty open about being fascists too. These are the actual people defending themselves from scum like you https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, the only fascists are the ones that crossed the border into Ukraine and are currently being pushed out. According to the article you linked, it states it's not possible to conclusively prove who launched those cluster munitions in October.

I've noticed the Russian Fascists haven't had a problem using cluster bomb on civilians, targeting hospitals and non-military health care facilities and generally committing random warcrimes.

You know, the simple solution for the war crimes to end would be for the Russian invaders to admit they fucked up, retreat to the borders that were recognized in 2013 and start preparing for the trials at The Hague.

But, Putin is too weak and much like Tankies need to tank... Russian fascists need to fash.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

The regime you support has been doing all of this to people of Donbas for eight years, and even CNN covered this https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296

People like you didn't care, and all of a sudden you pretend to give a shit about people of Ukraine. You're just a morally bankrupt scumbag.