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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Why though? Can't imagine that these rounds are going to change the course of the war, so why? Are they out of non-Uranium ones?

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope the effectiveness is the point.

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 68 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Imagine being this bloodthirsty you're willing to let Ukrainians suffer the effects of depleted uranium just to kill more Russians

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"let" Ukrainians.

Your patronising colonial mask is slipping.

Ukrainians have ASKED for these weapons so they can get rid of the murderous, child torturing Russians out of their country.

Stop amplifying the propaganda of child torturers.

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"Opposing the poisoning of masses of innocent people who had no say in the war is propaganda. I am very smart!" smuglord

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 years ago

it's kind of impressive how consistently we get the dumbest takes possible from lemmy.ee

[–] invno1@lemmy.one -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think Russia would be the most bloodthirsty if this was a contest. Good try though.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

Na, that's still you

Also least self aware

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 years ago

The body count of the West is several orders of magnitude higher than Russia's

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 2 years ago

Please don't use that against them, even as a bit as it's extremely powerful and causes irreperable emotional damage. Be mindful, libs are people too.

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Imagine defending a regime that targets hospitals and schools for missile attacks and rains white phosphorous down on cities.

If the Russians cared about anything beyond their own expansionist agenda, they'd retreat and end the war they started. If you actually cared about the suffering of Ukrainians, you would stop being a mouthpiece for that regime.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Fuck, I almost thought you were on about the US and Israel but guess not ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Too bad you still are pushing for the war to even continue. You don't want the Russians to genocide every single Ukrainian so you still propose they should just do it themselves and continue running straight into landmines. 🙄

How about some peace talks? Maybe? Oh wait Boris Johnson thought otherwise...

[–] Clarke311@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

Because of the uranium bullets are denser and heavier than the lead bullets and you can use the uranium bullets on certain types of aircraft and other weapons systems to shred through medium to heavy armor that could not be penetrated with a lead bullet. TLDR this will be used as a force multiplier.

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are harder and penetrate armour better. So yes they will provide an advantage.

The sooner Russian occupiers are no longer murdering Ukrainians and dropping mines over every square meter of land, the less harm comes to Ukrainians.

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Tungsten penetrators perform better than DU ones. They're just more expensive and Ukrainian lives aren't worth that much.

[–] antisoupbarrier@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Plenty enough to rip through the Russian armor! These are just old stockpiles of ammunition that weren't getting use anyways.

[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

love to refresh my arsenal via proxy war

[–] SpanishSpaceAgency@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago

Love to get rid of my toxic waste by simply poisoning a different populace

[–] rogrodre@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

I know it hard for the recently scratched liberals to understand this, but It's perfectly okay to decommission a weapon, you don't have to use it on people to get rid of it.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No individual measure aside from troops on the ground or nukes is going to change the course of the war by itself.

The ammunition is very effective at punching through the armor. But the Ukrainians will be fucked when in 5 years Leukemia in children is skyrocketing

[–] invno1@lemmy.one -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe but if they lose the war will that be better?

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So what, you're suggesting that right now they are "winning"? By what metric are they "winning"? Western brownie points? Because all of the teenagers and young adults that are 6ft under would beg to differ.

[–] Rapture@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

You suggest they roll over and give up?

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Russian forced are mechanized and entrenched, depleted uranium self sharpens on impact, yielding far better armor penetration than previous technologies.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago

And more generational cancer

[–] bouh@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago

Ammo is ammo. It's better than hurling stones.