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[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ransomware operators are scum and should not be trusted, let alone paid.

[–] cowvin@kbin.social 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This isn't ransomware. This is standard blackmail.

[–] YMS@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Correct, but done by ransomware operators.

[–] zalack@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not that this isn't scummy but my understanding is that "ransomware" refers to software that locks a user or organization out of their systems until a fee is paid, generally my encrypting the disk.

This seems like a more traditional "hack" of a system where you get in and download data. Which makes threatening them is traditional blackmail.

[–] red@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The point is that Alphv is an operator of ransomware as a service (RaaS), specifically BlackCat, independent of whether they used ransomware in this specific attack (which it indeed doesn't sound like).

[–] zalack@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Oh I see. I misunderstood the comment then. Thanks for the clarification!

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'll have more respect if it were done by disgruntled employees, but this blackmail is done by a ransomware operator.

[–] gds@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed they definitely shouldn’t pay these guys.

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[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup. They absolutely shouldn't pay, for decision theoretic reasons, but that doesn't mean there won't be interesting fireworks to watch.

[–] PelicanPersuader@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

I'll be real curious if they have browsing data or subs tied to email addresses. How many .gov emails are subbed to nothing but fetish and porn subreddits?