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A post by [object Object] (@zzt@mas.to) saying:
courtesy of @davidgerard@circumstances.run, Proton is now the only privacy vendor I know of that vibe codes its apps:
In the single most damning thing I can say about Proton in 2025, the Proton GitHub repository has a “cursorrules” file. They’re vibe-coding their public systems. Much secure!
I am once again begging anyone who will listen to get off of Proton as soon as reasonably possible, and to avoid their new (terrible) apps in any case. https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/114961415946154957
It has a reply by the author saying: in an unsurprising update for those familiar with how Proton operates, they silently rewrote their monorepo’s history to purge .cursor and hide that they were vibe coding: https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/tree/2a5e2ad4db0c84f39050bf2353c944a96d38e07f
given the utter lack of communication from Proton on this, I can only guess they’ve extracted .cursor into an external repository and continue to use it out of sight of the public
Do you understand the difference between using AI assistance for coding and vibe code?
One is completely idiotic and dangerous and the other is merely stupid and risky?
OK Luddite
We're talking about a privacy-first platform, but ok.
Hey, guess what: Luddites were not afraid of technological advancement. They were a solidarity movement to ensure they got fair treatment from owners and managers as their jobs changed with the industrial revolution. You tried to insult someone, but essentially called them pro-union, which is pretty cool, imo. Check out Blood In The Machine.
WORKERS FIRST!
at least I can write code without a LLM babysitter.
I wire my code by hand like a real coder.
No punch cards?
I use butterflies
Nawww good job! Do you want a golden star for writing all that boiler plate, getter/setter methods etc. by hand?
Buddy, if you were writing all that boilerplate by hand before AI, then AI wasn’t the solution to your problems. It takes almost no time at all to write a parameterized code snippet in any modern IDE
Your syntax and overall comprehension are pretty shite. You may not vibe code, (allegedly) but you may be better off vibe posting. I know the rest of us would be, that way. 🤢🤌🏼
luddite is a compliment, not an insult.
Like, go actually read about them, the luddites were fighting against capitalists replacing workers with machines.
Yeah using cursor or any AI assistance != vibe coding. I’m just confused why they acted guilty and edited their history without saying anything
Maybe they did the git stuff for some other reason. I mean the files are still there 🤷🏼♀️
I'm a bit tired of the Proton employee bumped into a tourist and didn'timmediately say sorry sort or posts about proton.
That’s literally the definition of “vibe coding”…
No the "definition" (loose term because it's based on one guys tweet hat invented the word) of vibe coding is to don't read the code, accept any changes and code purely of vibes.
Oh that’s what it means? Ok I think we’re all confused because it’s literally just from one tweet! I need to look this up.
Wait, there is a full Wikipedia article that I knew I looked at recently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibe_coding
This is entirely wrong?
Not entirely, but the crux is here
"Karpathy described it as "fully giving in to the vibes, embracing exponentials, and forgetting that the code even exists.""
I only read the intro and definition sections, but the article lines up exactly with what Evotech said.
From the article you cited. Did you read it?
It's not.
make a directory, init a git repo, start claude code in that directory, feed it a prompt (a good vibe coder will utilize another LLM to write them the prompt), then hit shift+tab a couple times, got watch youtube.
that's vibe coding.
Way to tell on yourself by replying in completely the wrong thread.