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Whom is the message directed at? People who would get those frames of reference?
Telling gender activists who would get those frames of reference that they are focusing on the wrong 1% would be odd. Telling the people focusing on the wrong 1% using frames of reference they would likely miss is odder still.
For lack of a better word, the message is a bit subculture-centric by assuming everyone shares a particular frame of reference. Of course, you understand, but that's preaching to the choir.
Unless you immediately get the frames of reference, it is hard to understand. That you think it isn't indicates a self-centered myopia.
That was a very long way of saying, "I don't know pride flags"
Most bigots know which flags they hate. This is a moot argument.
That's a very short way of missing the point.
You think bigots or anyone else would bother recalling/recognizing flags of low relevance in their experience? It looks like faded red, white, and blue.
I'm sorry, bruh: you're just confirming everything I wrote about self-centered myopia.
Put a pride flag outside your house and count how many bigots start asking you about it. Go to any conservative event with a pride flag of any kind and they'll all know what it is.
It's okay to admit you didn't know something.
I mean, it's really dumb to assume bigots of all people understand what they hate, up to and including the symbols...
If they understood it as much as you clearly assume, most probably wouldn't be bigots... I agree the messaging of the shirt isn't the worst, nor its packaging, but they're totally correct about bigots not understanding much.
Conservative media has taught them what to be made about. I'm not saying they understand it. I'm saying they will see the colors and know because they've been told to hate those colors.
Nope. You assume those programs inform their audiences. Of anything. They do not. They only stoke fear and judgement, not education. Even of the banal, "know thy enemy" sort. Why get to know your enemy when a boogieman is so much more effective!?
I guarantee you those fucking ghouls are teaching people to be afraid of any flag that's not the stars and stripes regardless of whether it's a country flag or regardless of what it stands for.
Maybe some will if it's clearly a flag. This isn't a flag, though: it's a shirt with a vague color scheme.
Recognizing a flag there takes a step & a frame of reference. Again, you're just telling me it's clear from your perspective, which doesn't mean much.
For something to hit hard, it first needs to hit the audience it's directed at, which isn't you. If only likeminded thinkers it's not directed at think it hits, then it isn't hitting shit.
But sure: go ahead and discount an outside perspective telling you they're not getting this. Pretend it doesn't matter because likeminded thinkers in your echo chamber do get it, so of course everyone else should get it, too. That's totally valid reasoning & not exactly the way a fundamentalist thinks.
He is admiting he doesn't know. You don't understand that many other people other than you do not know.