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[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This Ukraine stuff is a war where 100.000 war crimes were reported, tens of thousands of civilians were killed raped and tortured, where hundreds of thousands of people lost their house.

I wouldn't say it's $900 per household because

  1. It's from the defense federal budget, that you would've spent anyways
  2. The aid packages, expressed in dollars, are the sum of the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine, in vast majority which US already had
  3. The defence budget is there to be able to stand against the strongest adversaries: China and Russia. USA basically annihilated one of their enemies' army without a single drop of blood.
[–] mihor@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You must be joking, 100K war crimes??? 10K rapes??? This isn't Rwanda.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The government of Ukraine reports 103.325 war crimes, 9444 killed civilians, 16940 injured civilians. (war.ukraine.ua). You may legitimately considered these numbers inflated by the Ukrainian government, for this reason I can redirect you to the Wikipedia page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine containing plentiful of references and sources.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you genuinely going to believe numbers given by literal Nazis?

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Why do you think the Ukrainians are Nazi? You're clearly failing to understand that having a Nazi problem (like any country) does not imply the government is Nazi. You have seen images of men with their tattooed arms right? How does it mean that the government is Nazi? It's Kremlin's propaganda to discredit Ukrainians. Go see the polls and see how many far-right parties got (2%).

I linked a Wikipedia page, so there's no need to "believe" as the war crimes are documented.

Now look at who's committing genocide, deportations and tortures.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

And that Wikipedia article has absolutely shit sources so it should only be laughed at

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

They let Nazis in the government through the Azov are in the military and allow Nazis in the military. That is the government.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You haven't heard of hyperbole, clearly. But it's not far from the truth. Russia commits war crimes every day. It's all their military is good for. They can't fight a real force, so they blow up and murder civilians instead. To claim otherwise is misinformed at best, actively dishonest at worst.

[–] mihor@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok, Jen! 😂 I guess those leopards and bradleys blew up by themselves...

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh, Jen 🤣 those kindergartens blew up by themselves

[–] mihor@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean the one that Ukrainian Mi-17 fell on to? Or the one hit by an AD Ukrainian missile? 🤷🏼

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No, I mean this this, this, this and more. Thank you, have a nice day.

P.S. Let's not forget about the killing of innocent civilians in Bucha with their hands handcuffed

[–] mihor@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

These are all either shot-down missiles (AD inside urban areas is a war crime, though) or failed/jammed AD missiles themselves.

It's weird, then, that the US lapdogs ICC never mentioned Bucha as a pretext for the arrest warrant, don't you think?