this post was submitted on 01 Aug 2025
383 points (95.3% liked)
Showerthoughts
36379 readers
285 users here now
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.
Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:
- Both “200” and “160” are 2 minutes in microwave math
- When you’re a kid, you don’t realize you’re also watching your mom and dad grow up.
- More dreams have been destroyed by alarm clocks than anything else
Rules
- All posts must be showerthoughts
- The entire showerthought must be in the title
- No politics
- If your topic is in a grey area, please phrase it to emphasize the fascinating aspects, not the dramatic aspects. You can do this by avoiding overly politicized terms such as "capitalism" and "communism". If you must make comparisons, you can say something is different without saying something is better/worse.
- A good place for politics is c/politicaldiscussion
- Posts must be original/unique
- Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct and the TOS
If you made it this far, showerthoughts is accepting new mods. This community is generally tame so its not a lot of work, but having a few more mods would help reports get addressed a little sooner.
Whats it like to be a mod? Reports just show up as messages in your Lemmy inbox, and if a different mod has already addressed the report, the message goes away and you never worry about it.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It is a war industry for the Western countries because the war is never on their soil. It is a defence industry for everyone else.
yeah russia sure is defending the shit out of itself invading ukraine.
I get it, western countries bad, but for fucks sake have a bit of perspective.
Yep NATO expansion and coups can go on just so far.
They knew ukraine was a red line bcs NATO nukes there are too close to defend from.
And they are actually defending not only themselves but also the ethnic Russian (ex)ukrainians since nobody in the west cared when the US funded trained and armed the fascists that terrorised them for 8 years. Maybe you get some perspective, I can hear your propaganda nonsense every day in any western MSN.
lol, russia invading has gassed nato expansion to countries that never considered it before. Putin's a better recruiter for NATO than anyone else.
yes, hence the budapest memorandum, where RUSSIA GUARANTEED UKRAINE'S SECURITY IN EXCHANGE FOR THEIR NUKES, YOU GODDAMN DOLT.
sure thing, kremlin mouthpiece. how much do they pay you for suborning your own country? chode
NATO expansionism is the root cause of this war. NATO instigated this war and Russia got baited.
lol. only took one comment. Scratch a tankie and a vatnik bleeds?
Better red than a dirty fascist.
You wolfsangel and swastika wearers will go down the way your granpa's went the first time.
ROFLS you really believe that huh?
even after russia guaranteed ukraine's security in the budapest memorandum?
wow. amazing.
LOL
There hasn't been a ukraine since the fascist coup where the US regime literally chose who would run that proxy state.
And then broke the Minsk treaties over and over
Sure won't question the mods when they let this unhinged scumbags throw insults like that.
LOL I'm Belgian.
Got you all in a frenzy I see, unstable as expected
So did USA.
The US invaded Ukraine?
Sorry, that didn't happen.
No, but they did promise protection. So far, there has been no protection given, only money.
Problem with talking about USA in this conflict is everytime immediately assumes that anyone accusing USA of anything is automatically supporting Russia.
To the last ukrainian as Lindsey Graham or even Soros in 93' said.
The US doesn't care about their sucker proxies when they have served their use.
Just like the Kurds and many others.
Yeah. But the public is stupid enough to be brainwashed into thinking that the war was just and needed.
just tons and tons of ordinance, from the javelins that stopped the taking of Kiev to the artillery, apcs, aircraft and munitions for everything from autocannons to patriots, yeah, no protection whatsoever.
problem with talking about USA in this conflict are the spineless fucks who keep undermining our support to appease PUTIN. Ukraine deserves more, but we're stymied by the kompromised members of our government.
LOL what a joke
such an outstanding reply, loaded with insight and wisdom.
a belgian quisling... now that's fuckin funny
That's my whole point, only money has been given. US troops should have been deployed to Ukraine.
LOL sure start WW3, smart
Why did the US promise protection then? Bunch of fucking cowards, I guess.
They have always been cowards and let others do the fighting for them. They say a lot if it benefits them.
Sell them arms.
Get NATO vasals to also buy more arms.
Make Russia spend money on the war.
Anyone who isn't stupid knows they could never guarantee protection.
Except mercs and 'advisors' they will not and can not set one foot on ukrainian soil.
Russia says it is a red line and despite being wildly irresponsible the US won't cause WW3 just yet.
Silly vatnik, get your kremlin talking points right.
STFU nazi coward
what fuckin part about
didn't you comprehend pardner? too many big words?
Oh and I assume you're gonna sign up because otherwise you're just volunteering other people's kids for combat. for that matter, why didn't you go? you can go today if you have such a hardon for getting into the fight.
https://www.ildu.com.ua/
something tells me you won't, and tells me you probably never served a moment before this either.
Let's not get into who should go and who should not. It is pointless. US has been deploying troops worldwide since decades, they can easily deploy some in Ukraine but they don’t want to.
two seconds ago you were saying:
what, did your balls shrivel up the moment someone suggested you get up off your ass and help? fucking pogue.
You are missing the point. I am saying let's not talk about which individual US persons should go to fight.
Why? Why are you fine with sending US soldiers to die in europe, but unwilling to volunteer your own skin?
Because I am not from the US...
UK? Some nazi Baltic, Fin?
Where do suicidal warmongering idiots wanting WW3 come from?
That is not the point of the discussion
OK then.
Either way, nobody should go and fight.
Americans should learn to mind their business.
And meddling in other countries as they are used to has its limits.
Their time is over and will be put in their place.
Perfect but US has meddled too much for far too long to just give up on its commitments. It has to clean up its mess.
They should not start new wars, that is for sure.
They should not 'clean up'.
Everything they touch tuns to shit and there's even nothing they can do.
They've gotten all they can out of it, the advantages for them I mentioned earlier.
The catasthrophic secondary geopolitical consequences, such as a stronger Russia, BRICS and chism from most of the world with the west they will have to swallow.
Ukraine being lost is just a detail compared to that.
I'll bite. In the 5 years leading up to Russia invading Ukraine, what did NATO do that warrants such a move by Russia?
The US/UK NATO have been supporting nazis since WW2.
Operation Aerodynamic specifically for ukraine to cause trouble.
It has always been a strategy and a goal to hurt Russia who they never forgave for beating their fascists.
The horrible Brezinksky doctrine of the US regime followed that line.
" “Even without the Baltic states and Poland, a Russia that retained control over Ukraine could still seek to be the leader of an assertive Eurasian empire.... But without Ukraine and its 52 million fellow Slavs, any attempt by Moscow to rebuild the Eurasian empire was likely to leave Russia entangled alone in protracted conflicts with the nationally and religiously aroused non-Slavs"
From 2014 when they fist tried regime change with the horrible Yuchenko:
The Stratfor news web site, which has close links to the American intelligence apparatus, revived this analysis following the recent struggle for power in Ukraine. In an analysis of recent events, Stratfor concludes that the secession of Ukraine not only weakens Moscow with regard to foreign policy, but also, “without Ukraine, Russia’s political, economic and military survivability are called into question.” The Stratfor report continues: “To say Russia is at a turning point is a gross understatement. Without Ukraine, Russia is doomed to a painful slide into geopolitical obsolescence and ultimately, perhaps even non-existence.”
After that the people voted this puppet out since they knew they had been conned.
After which the US sent billions via NED and other ways to destabilise the country and fund fascists.
This led to the coup.
None of which warrant annexing and invading another country, destroying civilian infrastructure, forced naturalization, etc.
It seems to me that an escalation to war was a desperate move. A weak move at that.
Your description makes it sound like the school bully got it's feelings hurt as everyone started calling them names in the yard. Knowing that it's days of influence are behind them, the next day the bully returned to school with a gun...
Sounds like you deepththroated the propaganda BS.
Ansd all the rest sounds like frustration from a Russophobe that can't get over NATO and the western vasals losing.
Anyway, not worth my time responding to nonsense.
Keep yourself together now.
I have no hand in this game. I just see the basic facts. One of them is the invader. The other is the invaded. Regardless of what else is occurring, nothing has convinced me that the invaders were doing it out of goodness of their hearts. Being on Lemmy I've heard a lot from all sides. I'm not on anyone's side but I can tell you the invaders were the aggressor. You can paint whatever picture you want, but it'll always be one invaded the other.
You're like those hasbara snakes who starts counting from oct 7 you start counting from when Russia finally intervened.
Where were all those people when those nazis burnt 47 people alive bcs they protested the coup in Odessa in 2014?.
And somehow they missed the 8 years of ethnic cleansing and bombing of civilians too.
Typical western hypocrites with their selective indignation.
Bye now
The sad thing is that people think things like that warrants all out war. How many more people need to die in order to prevent people from dieing? It's a fallacy, and I don't believe for a second that this war is based on saving lives.
In case you don't get it, the ukro army bombing 35+ % of their civilians is worse than war.
So save your crocodile tears about "How many more people need to die" hypocrite.
You are a really stubid bot
Why are you trying to deflect onto Ukraine. I'm sure it's atrocities all round, that isn't the point. Russia invaded. Russia are the aggressor. Russia are the invaders. No argument there I imagine. I'm not a hypocrite as you are arguing an entirely different point in an attempt of whataboutism. Perhaps if Russia had not of invaded, all this would have been avoided no? Who knows what bright future we may have had without countries invading other countries like time of old. We will never learn, especially with people like yourself giving justification for their efforts.
The war is never on their soil? WW1 and 2 and Yugoslavia ring a bell? And Ukraine is a western country too.
They predict that Russia will attack western Europe in 2027, by the way.
LOL
We are talking about the war/defence industry which is a much newer thing when countries started selling weapons and such to other countries on a large scale and during their own non-war times, like the last 50 years of American history. If countries sold weapons to each other during WW2, it was because they were involved in the war themselves. Nowadays, it is just selling weapons and watching others burn each other down.
Predictions have been going on since forever about so many things. Doesn't make it any truer. China is going to annex Taiwan, Russia is going to attack Europe, Iran is weeks away from nukes. Funnily, there are no predictions about USA doing stuff.