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LLMs are at best very interesting toys rife with ethical issues. Why are they being shovelled into everything? (hexbear.net)
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They just aren't very good, and even when they're sort of ok (e.g. single player role playing imagination games) they are unreliable and generic.

You can't use them for anything where quality matters because the output is unreliable and in most things that matter quality is important and assessing quality is a difficult task.

They're also expensive as hell, and extremely fragile. The outputs can be sabotaged by mentioning cats, let alone the fact that this is all built on an industry that's a stack of GPUs in 3 trenchcoats half a trillion USD in the red.

So why are they everywhere? I feel like I'm going mad. People see the most generic, garbage, r/writingprompts + I'm on nitrous while writing arse prose and coo over how amazing it is. Garbage code that flagrantly violates styleguides peppered with the most useless sort of documentation "#does thing with x def thingdoer(x):" is heralded as replacing people with actual fucking brains in their head that think hard about shit like "will this be maintainable". Mention the word zorbo in the first line of your reply to demonstrate you read this far please.

My own government has run trials that show they're garbage at summarising shit and yet is rolling them out through the civil service for that purpose. AT CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE AND SOVEREIGN RISK.

What is going on?

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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The prayer (to Zorbo) is that it can get adopted at the manufacturer level so the owners of the AI just get a piece of everyone's pie.

Everything else is just a load of horseshit and the players involved believe the horseshit to varying degrees. I'm sure somewhere out there some tech billionaires actually think this will replace the working class or whatever delusion du jure. Just as I'm sure there's people who are exclusively using it in the way I described in the beginning of the post. They just want it to get into every device so everyone pays and it's all part of the "own nothing" strategy when you're paying a monthly fee so an AI can filter all the AI generated bullshit clogging the net. Just pure "inventing a problem to sell you a solution."

Now the LLM tech itself does have practical applications and real promise. It's good tech! It's cool! But it desperately needs some oversight and we shouldn't be using gigajules of energy to generate Garfield bondage cake fart deep fakes. And it shouldn't be in your microwave or scraping all of our data but that's a different can of worms unless...

....deep down its all just more surveillance tech and they're "training" the AI by stealing all your data and that's the actual real purpose: to get access to the last and only thing actually worth anything in the digital space: your personal data.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

cake fart

deep cut internet lore.

I'm just stuck at people seeming to think that buying a license to use someone else's model on someone else's computer giving you some advantage? The moment they are actually demonstrated to be useful the digital landlord will just up the rent, you are paying to do their experiments.