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source? genuinely curious
It’s utter rubbish. Just look at how cats react to unfamiliar humans compared to unfamiliar cats. They know the difference.
I'd say even go further and say they differentiate more than that. I remember seeing an adult house cat encounter sheep for the first time. He very clearly and obviously recognized that these were new creatures he'd never seen before. They weren't another cat, nor were they human. His reaction was very interesting to watch. He was extremely leery and cautious of the sheep - but at the same time also very curious about them. After a bit he figured out that the sheep weren't a threat, and that he could approach them and the sheep would more or less just ignore him.
I sometimes wonder if its because they don't pass mirror test and think they are humans.
There’s cats that do and some that don’t. Mine once looked in the mirror after getting a haircut
While my cat is over here convinced that any reflective surface has strange and scary cats living in them and refuses to walk past them.
You should try googling mate! Wolves have been observed to hunt with crows (crows locate it, wolves kill it, crows get the leftovers), their coexistence is in fact to the point where crows play with wolf puppies (chasing games and tug of wars have been observed)! Due to this cooperation wolves have evolved and do recognize and treat these members of their packs differently! Which you too can observe if you own a dog, as it does not treat you like another dog! In opposition to cats, who despite also living in colonies do not cooperate with other species nor with each other really (with exemptions to raising their little ones, they supervise each other if the mom and dad goes hunting at the same time). They are not really capable of recognizing other than prey, cat, danger
https://www.petmd.com/dog/pet-lover/can-dogs-tell-difference-between-dogs-and-other-animals
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/140127-cats-pets-animals-nation-dogs-people-science
Edit: @Goodeye8 is lying, he made that quote up! Please use a word search in the source before you take his nonsense ok face value
From the very Nat Geo article you linked:
They might not be able to understand that we're a completely different species but they do understand that we're not your average cat (another evidence of that is that cats generally don't meow between each other but they do meow with humans) and they definitely don't view us as terrible or incompetent. They view us as clumsy because based on how they see the world we are in general pretty clumsy.
Bit off topic but another interesting fact is that if we factor in fine motor skills we're the least clumsiest animal on the planet. Cats have excellent gross motor skills but you don't see them threading a needle. And very few animals could thread a needle because, well for a multitude of reasons but primarily because most animals simply can't get that level of precision out of their limbs or mouth or trunk or whatever they would have to use. But for us that is so easy we don't even question the level of complexity and precision we're showcasing. Gross motor skills looks like it might bring us down but we're actually very adaptive when it comes to gross motor skills (see parkour, rock climbing or just gymnastics). We simply don't spend time developing those skills because most of us never need it. We don't need to climb over fallen trees or crawl under bushes because if a lot of people need to use that route we just pave a road.
Humans having best fine motor skills seems fairly obvious tbf. I've seen the videos of monkeys trying to use a hammer.
I added that part specifically because it's so obvious. It's so obvious we don't even think about all the fine motor movements we can do with excellent precision that no other animal in the world could even do.
I never said that they view us as dumb or incompetent?
The image says that. The other person asked for a source for that statement and you gave sources without correcting the terrible incompetent part. I think it's a fair interpretation that you implied it.
I didn’t?
And you taking the issue with someone saying incompetent instead of clumsy, with me no less who is not the author nor the poster,is a very intelligent! Hope your glasses certificate gonna be revoked and then you won’t be seeing properly!
I'm just going to ignore the absolute nonsense you just wrote and say that it's not my problem if you're incapable of acknowledging a mistake. Go have a day and don't bother me.
Your qute is also false and not within either of my sources, so you also lied
I already said this conversation is over, your unnecessarily aggressive and rude comment got removed and you still come back with not one but two comments. Do your mental health a service and log off for the next week because you're acting like a nutcase.
You have no right to my body or actions, though you have right over yours!
You lied and got upvoted in order to make a thing out of circumstantial nonsense! Its kind of wild you can just say that x source quoted y and people really do not verify you! Shame really as you are a prolific liar
I'm done putting up with your aggressive bullshit.
I didn't lie about anything. The image made two statements. First statement is that dogs can identify us as humans. That statement is irrelevant to this discussion because I didn't address it all. The second statement is that cats view humans as "terrible incompetent cats".
The person you replied to asked for a source about those claim but they didn't clarify which statement they wanted a source for. Now asking source for the second statement can be interpreted three ways. The person asked for a source for cats viewing as cats, cats viewing us as "terrible incompetent" or the previous two together that cats view us as terrible incompetent cats.
You gave a source for that statement but you also didn't clarify which part the source verifies. So taking the 3 interpretations:
Two out of three interpretations means your source is wrong. Just because you want to believe you only addressed that one interpretation where your source is right doesn't mean you actually did because you never specified which part of the statement you gave a source for. How are we supposed to know that was what you meant?
To put it as plainly as I can put it, had you said "This source only shows that cats view us as cats" I would've had no issue with your comment. You left your source open to interpretation and 2 of the 3 interpretations meant you were wrong.
Now this conversation had been over many comments ago if you had just gone "I didn't think it could be misinterpreted, my bad." but you continue to demand you were never wrong in the first place. That is why you are getting downvoted and I'm not getting downvoted. You being an insufferable asshole who can't properly express themselves also doesn't help. And just to be very clear, I haven't downvoted you once because unlike you I don't actually care about upvotes or downvotes.
The bullshit is the part you can read in your comments! Mirrors are magic!
You did! You lied! The quote you claimed you copied from my source is false as they is not there! And now you lie about you lying before! You now trying to shift goalposts is very very very pathetic!
Yes I am certain the person the person who started this comment wanted clarification on the usage of the word of incompetent instead of clumsy, and not general cat&dog social behavior! As the latter is only interesting, while your issue is circumstantial nonsense! So much so that you have to make your quotes up as absolutely nothing supports it!
My sources verified what I wrote down… Not what you imagine that I implied, which clarified I didn’t on 2 seperate comments… Why do you have the right to vote?
No, if we were to shift the goal post then the source would not become magically wrong; I would have not provided for the thing OP asked for! And you can know what I mean, by again, reading the 2 separate comment in which I clarified that I do not imply your nonsense!
I wasn’t wrong and you are an asshole! I am being downvoted because you falsely made up a quote which you claimed are from my source which contradicts my statements!
You fucking donkey.
Next time read your source instead of believing you can't be wrong because you're too technologically inept to use the fucking find function.
But what if you, and take my hand this is going to be scary, didn’t attempt to dissmiss it?
You are barking at the guy, who by your own recollection explicitly shared correct information via my words and links, but supposedly implied something via commenting under a post with whiches wording you disagree! Again, you have an issue with someone saying incompetent instead of clumsy! With which again, I did not post nor made that/such post!
Your interesting fact is also not interesting, nor true! Corvins have such fine motor skills that they are not only capable of making tools, they entered their stone age
Humans being categorised as not danger is a bit far from them being literally seen as other cats
…yes, thats why they view us as cats as we are too large to be hunted by them?
Can I have a source for the crow and wolf cooperation? that sounds so cute 😭
Okay no, never doing this again! Pls use google! I looked it up, the very first ups is a youtube video!