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They just aren't very good, and even when they're sort of ok (e.g. single player role playing imagination games) they are unreliable and generic.

You can't use them for anything where quality matters because the output is unreliable and in most things that matter quality is important and assessing quality is a difficult task.

They're also expensive as hell, and extremely fragile. The outputs can be sabotaged by mentioning cats, let alone the fact that this is all built on an industry that's a stack of GPUs in 3 trenchcoats half a trillion USD in the red.

So why are they everywhere? I feel like I'm going mad. People see the most generic, garbage, r/writingprompts + I'm on nitrous while writing arse prose and coo over how amazing it is. Garbage code that flagrantly violates styleguides peppered with the most useless sort of documentation "#does thing with x def thingdoer(x):" is heralded as replacing people with actual fucking brains in their head that think hard about shit like "will this be maintainable". Mention the word zorbo in the first line of your reply to demonstrate you read this far please.

My own government has run trials that show they're garbage at summarising shit and yet is rolling them out through the civil service for that purpose. AT CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE AND SOVEREIGN RISK.

What is going on?

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[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like the industry is trying to fake it til they make it when they really need to just stop trying to make fetch happen.

I keep expecting this bubble to burst because it's obvious bullshit, but the tech world doesn't seem to work that way. That's what I said about crypto and then it hit an all time high this year of over 100K per bitcoin somehow

[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

Crypto is big, but it never quite got the wide adoption its proponents were aiming for. Never mind that it has a market cap of $4T or whatever, that’s just crypto weirdos trading with one another and pretending that trading prices mean value. The amount of liquidity available to turn crypto into usable cash is minuscule.

The thing that crypto has going for it is that it was never designed to do anything useful. Its entire value is in being a store of value that is valuable because people treat it as a store of value. It has nothing else to prove to anyone for it to maintain itself. Whether it continues to maintain its value is questionable, but it’s hit a point of modest stability because it did the job of getting a bunch of retail investors to buy in and hold forever, which was the goal, and that situation can last as long as those retail investors continue to diamond hand their assets en masse.

AI isn’t in the same position. It’s not enough that lots of people are telling everyone that AI is good, or that big dollars are going into it. To be successful, AI has to eventually turn into surplus dollars. In order for it to do that, people have to pay for it, and on the order of hundreds of billions of dollars a year. I’m not saying that won’t happen, because who knows? The market can stay irrational for a very long time. But the market does eventually demand returns, and those returns depend on a lot of factors that are currently not manifesting.

Basically, crypto is stupid, but it makes sense in that it serves the intended purpose. It’s still a bubble, but it’s a bubble that can stay inflated for a long time because of the nature of the asset. AI is a bubble that needs a lot more cash to sustain. If it is to be sustained, it’ll likely be governments writing increasingly large checks for useless technology in perpetuity, which is a real thing that could happen. It’s very, very stupid, but the alternative is that the line go down, so hard to say which is more likely to happen.