Israeli propaganda spreader @PugJesus@lemmy.dbzer0.com a.k.a @PugJesus@lemmy.world banned me from completly unrelated community I never really participated in after I called out his Israeli propaganda lies here:
this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2025
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PJ does this a lot. The original post article was claiming that SA was being used as a 'genocidal strategy', which is an extremely bold claim and would need to show not only evidence of SA happening, but a coordinated and premeditated intent in order to drive Israelis from Israel.
The pull-quotes PJ is pointing to are acknowledging instances of SA - and really only acknowledging what little evidence beyond first-person accounting there is - but explicitly not 'systemic and coordinated' SA.
OP was pointing this out, even in his replies with PJ that he linked. PJ was ignoring the distinction and trying to bait a stronger reaction, and ended up banning OP as a result. He tried doing a similar thing with me a few days ago while defending/downplaying atrocities committed by the mujaheddin just so he could reframe responsibility for the Taliban around Pakistan.
I'm usually pretty lax with mod actions, because they're free to protect their communities they way they want to. But PJ has been on a tear the last few days, and was clearly not in a place to be acting as a mod. He's been starting fights and baiting people all week and deserves some mandatory time off.
Hasn't this always been his behaviour? I blocked him and his alts long ago for these very reasons.
Jokes aside, it was on another level recently. I feel like i've seen him go through a wave of activity like this before, so I guess even this episode might not be unique for him. But I can't imagine he has time to have been doing anything other than lemmy just based on his activity for the last 3-4 days. 170 comments (not including posts) over the last day alone, many of which are a part of deep, 20-30 comment long arguments where nothing substantial is communicated other than anger and disgust.
We usually only talk about 1 or 2 offending comments by users in this comm, but in pugjesus's case it's been near constant antagonism for days. Most people would have enough after a few hours but I gotta hand it to him - he's got some serious stamina.
No, the article stated "Israeli legal and gender experts" are claiming something like that, as reflected in the title. It also mentions "Hamas has denied its forces committed sexual violence against women or mistreated female hostages." The article is reporting on the claim, the evidence used to support it, and the limited amount the UN has actually been able to verify. It distinctly doesn't confirm it, because as you pointed out the burden of proof is high and doing so would be very irresponsible when it cannot be substantiated. PJ meanwhile doesn't claim anything more than the article does, at least in their post. In fact, it looks like the entire post including the title is directly lifted from the article.
Agreed, neither article proves the Israeli claim. The UN report does disprove the Hamas claim that none of their forces are committing sexual violence, but it does not prove that it is systemic as the Israeli group asserts. That is an important distinction. I haven't seen PJ actually claim that it was systemic but they could be implying it by seemingly trying to use that quote as a contradiction to OP saying that it's an Israeli lie.
It's true that PJ didn't acknowledge the distinction. They may not have realized that was the source of the pushback. But regardless, I still don't think that's enough to say the ban was retaliatory. Mass-downvoting a community's posts is reason enough to ban someone from it. It's essentially brigading and even one user can be pretty disruptive with small communities. That's why I wanted to know if OP had been acting in a way that qualifies for a legitimate ban or not.
I don't follow Lemmy politics enough to remember much of PJ's history other than that they are a big enough contributor to be a familiar name and that they were involved in some drama with 196. If they're going through something recently that's making them lash out, then I hope it gets better soon. They didn't seem particularly irritable from this interaction though.
PJ listed 'sexual assault denier' as the reason for the ban, seems pretty clear that - at the very least - this interaction was top-of-mind when he was issuing it.
This is the thing I'm pointing to as a pattern with him:
Whether or not PJ went into that interaction knowing felix's intent is hard to say, but it should have been clear to him by the end that there was no actual disagreement being expressed. In the end, PJ mis-represents the source material and doubles-down on his accusation of SA denial in his ban reasoning in the modlog. An interaction that should have ended in clarity instead ends in him banning the user, if not for the stated reason in the log, at-best for downvoting posts in another comm.
It's a pattern with PJ that he dives headlong into an argument making an assumption about a user's intent, and then when the user clarifies their position against his accusation, he doubles-down by either misrepresenting that user's statements or by twisting source material to fit the accusation being made. By the end of that argument, all he's doing is accusing felix of lying by mis-attributing the source material he's using. He's being unnecessarily hostile when, in the end, there wasn't an actual substantive disagreement between them.
He's a prolific poster/commenter and a mod of probably a dozen communities. I don't care about the history comms he spends a lot of time in, but I do often see him pop up in political gossip/snark communities like 'tankyjerk' and 'meanwhileongrad'. Most of his original content he posts is fine, if not good - but he often gets into it with other users on politics and does exactly this kind of rage baiting, occasionally posting it to the political snark comms if he's worked up enough about it.