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[โ€“] hansolo@lemmy.today 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)

lol, as if it's all magic?

Does the sinkhole caused by slapdash construction feature on the map?

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/subway-under-construction-collapses-chinas-chengdu-creating-sinkhole-2024-06-21/

How about the shed where 4 people died during construction?

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202109/11/WS613ba6e7a310efa1bd66ebdc.html

[โ€“] iridebikes@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

We have had industrial accidents and deaths as well... We may have better safety standards but going from no subway system to a massive full city system more robust than Western countries in a fraction of the time is pretty remarkable.

[โ€“] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Digging tunnels is dangerous. Especially if you dont have a century of experience to build off of.

[โ€“] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also especially if you don't care that much about your workers safety. If human lives are just a bunch of statistics to you, things become a lot easier

[โ€“] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are countries where that is absolutely true, look at any major construction project in the gulf states, and counties where that is much less true.

At least during my time in China, I saw more workers wearing PPE and taking measures such as using water to stop particulate matter from getting into the air than in Korea and way more than Vietnam and other developing countries. I understand it was very different 20 years ago.

I don't have data, but I would be quite surprised if China had significantly more injuries per hour worked in construction than Korea.

[โ€“] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is like the 2 extremes. China with terrible human rights violation and sloppy construction and cities where even thinking about mass public transit is akin to killing puppies.

[โ€“] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago

How many lives are saved by not having people in cars?