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Some natives to the Americas completely wiped trees from their area causing drought and mass migration. Humans have been dicks since the beginning. Greed can happen anywhere.
A counterexample only falsifies universally quantified statements, not existentially quantified statements. My point was that there are historical and present examples of humans living in relative harmony with their environment so it is not a necessity, that we destroy the environment as humanity per se.
Are you arguing there has never been a form of civilisation/community that didn't destroy their environment or are you arguing they are so few and far between that we should consider them anomalies to the supposed human nature of destroying the environment?
The former is a nigh indefensible claim the latter is somewhat easier to defend but would still require more than an example to be convincing.
There are people living in capitalist societies now that are not destroying the environment. But they are im the minority because humans, when gathered in large enough quantities, tend to destroy their environment regardless of their economic system. I believe any native tribe that grows large enough would also do this. The Iroquois depleted their soil and wood sources and had to move around due to this. Being greedy is human nature but not a death sentence. Education is likely the answer.