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[–] Manticore@lemmy.nz 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Jury null requires EVERYONE on the jury to agree Not Guilty, there are plenty of sleepwalker who believe the TV narrative about basically everything, Luigi included. Won't be hard to find at least one

Edit: jury nullification IS NOT the same thing as a hung jury. The former is final. The latter means a new trial with a new jury.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

there are plenty of sleepwalker who believe the TV narrative about basically everything

I have a family member like that. They're not religious of any kind, worked with fine electronics in factory, etc. and is by no means stupid. Earlier this year they started ranting about children supporting terrorism and no one understood what was going on. Until they revealed that some kids had written "Stop killing children" with chalk on the sidewalk. All because of TV news with anchors and all that. Not even some far right or conservative channel, just traditional and usually pretty neutral news. But they leave out 90% of what is going on.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've read this twice but are they saying that writing stop killing children is supporting terrorism?

[–] Metype@pawb.social 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Here's my best guess on the chain of logic:

Stop killing children -> Stop killing Palestinian children -> Stop Israel's war on Palestine -> Not supporting Israel -> Supporting Palestine -> Supporting Hamas -> Supporting Terrorism

It's about 15 too many conclusions to jump to but I've seen people do it. A lot.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

That's a very common chain of thinking for people with poor Critical Thinking Skills.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

A hung jury is better than a hanging.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A single juror can result in a hung jury.

[–] Manticore@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A hung jury is no verdict at all. Its just means another trial with a new jury until a verdict is reached.

Luigi will be paraded in his jumpsuit until he is formally jailed or dies. Anything else requires everybody to agree on Not Guilty, and that's astronomically unlikely given the volume of lobbying against him.

Whether or not he did it isn't even relevant anymore. It's whether the common folk of a jury think he did, and both supporters and detractors of 'The Adjustor' consider that to be Luigi. His identity is so entangled in the public consciousness that the only way out is nullification, and prosecution is unlikely to allow such a jury to form.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

A new trial isn't automatic. Many Hung Juries are never tried again, because often the District Attorney has no reason to believe that the outcome will be any different in another expensive trial.

A hung jury in Luigi's case would definitely be re-tried, over and over, if necessary, but after 3 or 4 hung juries, they'd probably finally give up, and blame liberals.

In addition to what the other comment said, the prosecution can try the case an unlimited number of tines unless a judge gets tired of it ans dismisses the case with cause.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, that is WRONG. It only requires ONE juror to refuse to vote Guilty, and it's a Hung Jury.

[–] Manticore@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 day ago

Hung jury =/= jury nullification.