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So Armenian and Greek genocides did not happen? Do you think life was great for non Turks/Muslims before that? There were no massacres of Christians?
Armenian genocide happened after the fall of the empire.
I said it was relatively more peaceful then than it is now. Not that nothing bad happened back then but COMPARED TO NOW? SERIOUSLY?
???? More than a million each dead of Armenians and Greeks, successfull ethnic cleansing of Asia Minor of said minorities.
I understand that you are not from a region occupied by the Ottoman empire and you have a simplistic mindview of Muslim's always good, Christians always bad. However saying the Ottoman empire should not have fallen is deeply offensive, certainly in the Balkans and I would wager in the Levante as well. The Arabs did rebel against them after all. With British support, just like every rebellion tries to get outside support.
I understand your point, but compare that period to NOW. Which one is worse? Which is better?
Compare what? Casualties of the genocides committed by Turkey vs the Israeli one? I won't do that and it's not because the numbers won't favor me, it's dehumanizing.
For my people it's much better now, even if compared to calmer periods of Ottoman history. The same applies to a lot of peoples that were part off the Ottoman empire. Palestinians are unlucky to be subjects of another genocidal regime.
Have you ever discussed with a national of a country that was part of the Ottoman empire (Turkey excluded for obvious reason) that wanted the Ottoman empire back? How exactly did you come to the conclusion that what the Middle East needs is the Ottomans back? Did you read any of the history of the peoples oppressed by it?