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The controversy from the start of the movie is due to Superman acting to stop an invasion without US involvement or consent. And the US eventually hires Lex's team to arrest him after the Intel Lex gathers about his originally intended purpose on Earth comes out. He's specifically not an agent of the US, explicitly or implicitly.
He doesn't "make sure" Ameica faces no consequences, but it is true that he doesn't hold them accoutnablr, with a caveat here. He didn't solve the problem by following it to its source and really fix the problem. His naivete in just stopping the invasion of his own accord, threatening the Barovian president, and then calling it a day like it was all fix, was a plot point and a critique against him in the movie, and one that proved to be valid. They could very well have taken it up the ladder and found the US was complicit (along with Lex) and Superman could have taken action against them, but they didnt. My suspicion, though, is that the US government as an obstacle or adversary for Supes and other heroes will evolve in this new DC Universe as it continues. The council that Luthor spoke to is still preparing to take on Superman and other metas. That is the point of the Suicide Squad, after all.
I don't follow you here. Supes and the Justice Gang prevent both invasion attempts by Barovia. No they don't take on the US itself (in this movie), but I don't see how that glamorizes the relationship with the Isreal-like analogy. Also, in the movie the weapons of war supplied to Barovia are also supplied primarily by Luthorcorp, specifically, not the US. It's not a 1 to 1 reflection of real life.
Superman is American empire. He has a distracting debate with Lois about the supremacy of Superman, but Superman decides he has supremacy in the end. The only case for Borovia being Israel instead of Serbia (in 90s) is that it has the US arms exporters (whether US State Dept is official conduit or not, US is not forbidding them) control Boravia. Russian like language in eastern Europe opressing muslims makes other case. The Superman = American empire propaganda is that the conflict is clear simplistic evil invading innocent good, and America/Superman "doing good after exploring all other alternatives." in imposing its will while US is free of all repercussions due to Superman's protection.