This story seems to have faded in the wake of events ad nauseam. We are all aware of Senor Luigi. However, most folks can’t recall the full name of the guy that allegedly Luigi gunned down. Mission accomplished.
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You think that not helping someone up who is clinging onto the edge of a cliff, about to fall and die, is not as bad as pushing them off?
Sure, its not my fault that they are holding on, about to fall. I didn't put them in that situation. But here i am, fully able to save them, nobody else around to do it instead of me. Do you think that i am less guilty of killing them if i refuse to help them?
Heck, they are even paying me money every month to ensure i dont fall off cliffs. They will even have to pay some of the money it costs me to pull them up from the edge.
Think about what you are saying mate... thats fucking ridiculous.
You created a medicine that can save sick people. Are you forced to sell it to sick people? If you ask for a lot of money, way more than it cost you to make it, is it killing them?
I would say it’s shitty, but you don’t owe people anything.
Now yea, not covering medical expenses for people in life threatening situations is really bad, but doing it when they’ll be okay and have to pay is less evil.
And yea, about the cliff, I believe not helping is not the same as killing someone. You didn’t put them in this situation, and acting could affect you negatively. (But they would suffer a lot more from you not acting)
America needs social healthcare by the government, not private companies
I dont think you should be forced to sell it. But it does defeat the purpose of making a new medicine. Like who is it for, if not the general public? But in terms of costs, that's not a fair argument because the US pays significantly more for the majority of drugs due to lack of government regulation and insurance companies' negotiating prices.
I dont think i can agree about your assessment of the cliff problem. I accept that you are not to blame for the situation, but given that you are now the only person who can help them, does that not create an obligation for you to act? If you then choose not to help, you are condemning them to death.
The judge passes the sentence but does not swing the axe. Is he less culpable than the executioner?
Would you also argue that since the judge passed the sentence, that the executioner is not also reaponsible for the murder, despite carrying out the sentence?
I think there are distinct parallels here.
Insurance companies who deny healthcare for arbitrary reasons should be held accountable for that. And i personally believe that even the workforce should be held to some account. I know jobs are hard to come by, but your own moral compass must be faulty if you opt to work for a company whose sole purpose seems to be harming people who need help.
Agree with your last point. Private for-profit companies should have no place in healthcare.
I believe they are accountable, but shouldn’t be punished by death obviously
Ah, to be clear, i am not saying the workforce deserves the death sentence. Absolutely not. But i do think that ceos of companies that consistently make decisions tbat harm and cause the death of millions of people deserve a harsh form of punishment. And whilst i wouldn't personally say that it should be death, i also dont have a problem with someone else believing and acting upon that belief. I would have more reservations on the type of punishment, but i dont think a more pragmatic approach is necessarily the wrong approach.