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Is there a rule when you join .world that you have to explicitly point out .ml user's instance every time you see them? You realize this is just lazy ad-hom.
As for 1984, it's a critical description of British authoritarianism, which is then projected onto the USSR in a "I have already depicted you as a soyjack" kind of way. Which makes sense given your reference to Catch-22, which is based on the authors own experience in WW2. Meanwhile Orwell's own experience was composing lists of communists and minorities for the British government (and being a rapist, bust that's neither here nor there).
Ultimatum, describing a one dimensionaly evil society, then pointing at your ideological enemies and declaring "this may not describe you in any literal sense, but it's you thematically!" is a completely vacuous thing that anyone can do to anyone and there's no real way of arguing one way of the other.