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[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 day ago (10 children)

3% Atheists is such a bullshit number. There is a famous Pew poll, where they asked people two questions side by side, "are you an atheist" and "do you believe in any god", and 4% answered no to the first one and something like 20% answered no to the second one.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Sounds about right, there's a difference between atheism and agnosticism, which is what the 2nd question is asking.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This isn't the difference. Agnosticism postulates that knowing if any god exist is categorically unanswerable. The matter of your personal believe is a parallel question entirely. "We cannot be sure, but I personally don't believe any gods" makes an atheist, but so does "There is absolutely no evidence for any gods so I don't believe any". "We cannot be sure, but I personally believe in Sobek, may his sperm be neverending" makes a theist.

[–] kayohtie@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago

I think the bigger difference is "I don't believe but I also don't think others are wrong" is a kind of mentality often. I think that and people are used to seeing self-proclaimed atheists being assholes loudly and go "well I'm not that". Atheism got fucked over by people who just want to be dicks to religious folks.

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