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As of 30 minutes ago at the time of posting, the NYPD has detained two young Black men after they refused their demands to show ID without explanation or cause. (files.catbox.moe)

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The NYPD is skulking through the L train demanding IDs from Black and Latino men, again with zero justified cause or explanation as to why.

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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 34 points 21 hours ago (11 children)

I'm no expert on American law but I'm pretty sure you don't have to show ID unless you're given a good explanation for it.

ACAB

[–] FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I think it depends on the state? But from what I know in at least some states you don't have to do so unless there's reasonable suspicion of some crime having been committed. IANAL.

[–] Saurok@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Just FYI to anyone who is reading this thread: In ALL states, even the ones with stop and ID laws, the cops have to have reasonable, articulable suspicion that you have committed, are commiting, or are about to commit a crime. 4th amendment right, also lots of case law.

[–] zourn@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

True, but they do not need to articulate their suspicion to you. The only person that they need to convince that they did have reasonable articulable suspicion prior to detaining you is the judge.

The system is set up much more in favor of the cops than for you.

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