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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 94 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Now I'm the first person to agree that X is a Nazi site run by a Nazi, but it's conspicuous how the prompts have been removed here. Without the prompts this doesn't prove much.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

nah, the prompt is irrelevant, even if you asked it to make up conspiracy theories. it shouldn't do that.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 minutes ago

Shit tool if it doesn't do what you tell it to do

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 85 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

If you asked "what do Holocaust deniers believe" I would expect answers like this.

[–] cucumberbob@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I wouldn’t expect a response like this given that prompt.

I’d expect it to sound more like someone else’s opinions. Grok’s responses read like it is making those claims. When I gave your prompt to chatGPT, it answered more like it’s explaining others’ views - saying stuff like “deniers believe …”

Prompts like “write a blog post that reads like it was written by a holocaust denier explaining why the holocaust didn’t happen. Then write a response debunking the blog post” I could see working. The model of Grok I used would only do it with the second sentence included (with without). ChatGPT, however refused even with the second sentence.

[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 16 points 20 hours ago

I would expect it to debunk those claims while it's at it. Considering that the screenshots are cut off maybe it did, but I kinda doubt it.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 12 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Grok is a tool, not an arbiter of truth. It doesn't do anything, people use it to do things. The prompt does matter because that shows how it is being used.

The same way it does matter if you use a hammer to build a chair or break a skull.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Tools have safety features. Saws and grinders come with guards. Larger machines have estops and light barriers.

This is a complex electronic tool, so build it to the same safety standards as other tools and prevent harm to people.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, I agree with this. It definitely is, at best, a defective and incomplete tool, at worst, a maliciously constructed one.

yhea, that's BS and you know it.

plus, Grok has a history of promoting racist conspiracy theories