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[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

DELTA CHAT MENTIONED RAAHHH lets-fucking-go

delta chat advertisementI unironically really love Deltachat, incredibly easy to set up and use to the point i got my 70+ yo grandma to use it and the encyption never breaks like matrix seems to constantly (at least in my experience anyways. it's not perfect if you're a paranoid bastard because it doesnt have PFS but like i said it's so easy to set up and use that i think it's a worthy tradeoff with how easy it is to make throw away accounts, and if you really need PFS there are web apps that you can use to get that

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Something I always find exhausting with apps like this, Matrix, and federation in general is where the heck do I make my 'email' or account or whatever? Which host isn't going to share my info with the FBI but also doesn't abide bigots?

This is why I wish China would do more coopting of western FOSS tech instead of building their own tech stacks from scratch. Like I get why they are doing it, but one way to deslopify Matrix would be a number of Western articles claiming Matrix (or any other federated FOSS communication platform) was a CCP op.

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

like i said if you are uber paranoid deltachat is probably not for you yet unless you're willing to use the peer to peer messaging web app available by default inside of deltachat. deltachat is really striving to be an app that you can get your friends and family off of dogshit apps like whatsapp because of how easy it is to set up and use while remaining fairly secure.

another thing i will say is that it's so easy to make user accounts (that you can immediately discard without care) because it's not really email, for instance i just made a throw away account, all i did was enter the name "test" and it instantly made the account and gave me this email address 2i17gx1w1@nine.testrun.org however it doesnt really matter because it's made on a chatmail server any unencrypted emails sent to this account get automatically rejected by the chatmail server, the only way to send encrypted mail through a chatmail server is if you have their public key, so the way you add contacts is thru a qr code or a link like this https://i.delta.chat/#XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX=2i17gx1w1%40nine.testrun.org&n=test&i=XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

https://delta.chat/en/help#device-seizure this is their recommendation to protect against a potentially malicious email server and/or you or your contacts devices being seized.