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[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 2 days ago (29 children)

Not a dollar to the DNC or a DNC candidate.

Never, ever again.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Honestly, I'm at the point where I support the full-on dissolution of the United States. There's just no coming back from this level of decay of political norms and culture. This isn't going to end without either a peaceful dissolution of the country or a civil war that kills millions of us. I say we just skip the civil war part, grant all 50 states independence, and let the states come back together into whatever new nation or collection of nations they wish to form.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

can we get like a 30-day musical chair countdown?

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Part of the agreement to let all states have their independence would be some basic requirements. One of those requirements would likely be that the new states have to allow freedom of movement and migration from the other US states, at the very least for several years after the national divorce. Ideally the president orchestrating this would negotiate some sort of basic EU-style customs and trade union. So the states can set their own laws and national policies, but people can move freely between the various new nations. Hell, most states would likely want this anyway. Does Mississippi really want to trap blue voters in its borders without giving them any relief valve? I would think they would be far happier just maintaining open border deals with the other new states, thus allowing people to simply vote with their feet if they don't want to stay in Mississippi. The alternative is that you end up having a mini civil war inside the borders of just one state.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

I'm not too confident in the collaboration of all the states tbh. An example is Texas trying to prosecute people for going out of state for abortions,

The unconstitutional plan to stop women from traveling out of state for an abortion, explained

Texas sues to stop a rule that shields the medical records of women who seek abortions elsewhere

You never know when you need to migrate till it's something you NEED to do. I also worry about medical personnel,

A Wisconsin Hospital Sued to Keep Medical Workers From Taking Better Jobs

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