I mean, it's not like he or we are going to cry over deportation of a fascist just for disagreeing with other fascists, but it is an extremely bad power for the US government to feel able to exercise, that can be used en masse against leftists, too.

Further normalising deportations is only a good idea to fascists (and maybe accelerationists). Not saying anybody should sacrifice anything or go marching for melon-musk , but a principled opposition to it isn't the worst or most impractical stance.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

I always see this precedent argument whenever fascists do something to other fascists, but the US government doesn’t need precedent to act against leftists. There is no point in defending one of the most odious and evil people alive against the machine he helped put into overdrive. They are coming after leftists regardless of whether or not they successfully deport Musk. If they can’t deport him they aren’t going to just throw up their hands and go “welp looks like we can’t go after the left now that the world’s richest fascist bought his way out of trouble”. I guess this sounds harsh but in my view this is just one step removed from liberals who think they can cast spells against the state using legalisms.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

Counterpoint: This is extremely funny and should happen

[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

Where I'm coming from is: he's not the first, he won't be the last, where's the outage for the people who aren't shitheel billionaires? Yes, I want to live in a country where people don't get deported for political reasons, but we already don't live in one of those, so it's funny that it might affect musk, one of the few people who I actually, truly wish suffering on.

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 days ago

counterpoint: billionaires aren't people, and we shouldn't treat them as though they are.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

Musk can fight his own battles, he's a billionaire. Any shred of attention given to "defending" him is being denied many people millions of times more vulnerable.

Also, whatever victory he might win will be neatly carved out to only apply to people like him. His victory would not actually help us.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

the best I can say for him is he gets to wait in line behind the millions of other people he helped condemn