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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Dems are not harm reduction in any way

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Congratulations, you are the reason we have what we have now.

[–] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that people should at least check the box, but leftists who are fed up are not the entire reason for "what we have now". A lack of mutual aid alongside politics is also the problem. There is also the whole problem of Suburbia and its culture: one of these problems is a fear of crime and "stranger danger" (this is only a problem when making sure you aren't talking to a federal agent). There are people still watching the same cable television that the internet supposedly replaced wholesale, and most of it's Fox News. These people completely outnumber the people who withhold their vote.

I honestly just hate the United States. I cannot find any other country on Earth that represents such a grave threat to freedom, aside from Israel which is of course a client state. I'd get rid of the "world police" no matter what "terrorists" run rampant because they will never be as terroristic as the U.S. anyway. I will vote for harm reduction, but I really, really want the American Union to break up.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

I’m with you, but I will disagree about the suburbs. Born and bred in the ‘burbs, I live there now. We are not the majority, but there are plenty of progressive people not living in fear of the things you describe. That being said, I’m more and more fed up with this country everyday. Suburbs in another country continues to look more appealing.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Lol no, billionaires and the complicity of both major US parties in the process of regulatory capture are why we have what we have now, although the political illiteracy and complacency of people like you is a significant factor in how that process was allowed to progress as far as it has

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The Biden administration did more for antitrust law than anyone in a generation. But by all means, ignore that because bOtH sIdEs

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Cool story, unfortunately for you I was alive for his presidency and am entirely aware of all the ways in which he enthusiastically supported a status quo that enriched billionaires, fucked over the vast majority of americans, and killed countless innocent people around the world. You're either completely clueless or a lying sack of shit, embarassing either way.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Doing some good things while upholding the status quo

Literal fascism

You: They're the same picture

Average ml take.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So if Harris won she would’ve deported all those people to El Salvador without due process?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Probably not, she would have exhibited slightly more tact and decorum in defense of the status quo, and you would have been fine with it because you stand for absolutely nothing

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So how is “defense of the status quo instead of mass deporting” not “harm reduction”?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There is no "instead" Biden deported and imprisoned a shitload of people, but you were fine with it because blue team

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Are you really trying to argue that what’s happening now was already happening under Biden? That ICE was already pulling up in unmarked vans and disappearing people with no criminal records, but people were fine with it “because blue team”?

Come on.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What's happening now is a faster, clumsier, less orderly version of what was happening before. The vans were marked and the ICE agents identified themselves, but yes actually people with no criminal records were being deported under Biden in similar numbers, and yes you were clearly fine with it

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Even assuming Biden actually deported legal immigrants like Trump is doing (which I haven’t found any proof of anywhere), just the simple fact that they were identifiable meant that we wouldn’t have the copycat phenomenon of people pretending to be ICE doing robberies and kidnappings in broad daylight. That’s already harm reduction.

And anyways no, I still don’t believe that documented and legal immigrants without a criminal record were being deported under Biden and the “clarity” was the only difference. That’s a big claim to make without a source.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 hours ago

Like i said, you were fine with it