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They're still pushing the "Ukraine are Nazis, here's zero proof!" narrative?
Yeah, so here's the thing. The Azov Battalion was a Nazi force up until they were obliterated during the Mariupol massacre. It's since been somewhat denazified but they still continue to fly the modified wolfsangel. This is all the Russians can point to. But remember the Russian Wagner group? They too were full fledged Nazis so it's utterly stupid for Putin to point fingers. But that's not the point, it's just a very flimsy reason for the Russians to justify the invasion.
This is all just what I remember from research years ago, but at one point there was a pretty large chunk of nazis/sympathizers in azov specifically. They cracked down on extremism since then, but it's conceivable there's a few left.
Now using that to call every single Ukrainian servicemember and child a nazi to justify actual imperialism? Average braindead tankie take.
Also the most extreme ones are the ones that died first and after broad mobilization the relative proportion shrank naturally. That's just maths.
And even if these two were not the case, Ukraine has a simple explanation:
When asked about one of the two Russian groups fighting on Ukraine's side, one being extreme racists who want to make Russia smaller to get rid of regions with non-Russian ethnicities, a government official, maybe even Zelensky personally, said to the press that Ukraine does not have the luxury to pick who fights on their side when the alternative is rape and genocide.
It's a weird kind of projection. The Russian military is full of nazis. Not that's it's surprising since nazis tend to gravitate towards the military. Wagner for example was founded by and full of nazis, but tankies seem to be OK with that.
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