They know the torture is happening, they think it's reprisal, not that bad, perhaps even good

"Bet you can't prove it" is frequently said by people who appear to 180⁰ on the issue instantly, it's gaslighting behavior

They downvoted reports on Ukrainian conscripts being tortured by their superiors, as well as Ukrainian teachers being dumped into a pit by Zhorin. All on their own telegrams. They know