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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 99 points 2 days ago (88 children)

Isn’t this how change happens?

But voting for who you believe in in the primaries and your preferred party in the general?

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago (34 children)

in theory, yes.

in practice the DNC will protect corporate donations at all cost.

[–] darthmachina@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For reference see Bernie Sanders.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The guy who regularly wins primaries for his Senate seat and is re-elected?

The guy who never, at any point, won national primaries for the Democratic nomination for President and therefore wasn't nominated for the Presidency?

I love Bernie, but everyone acting like he was treated unfairly by the party establishment when it was the party base that voted against him is dumb. If he'd won the primaries and then the superdelegates chose Clinton or Biden, that'd be a different story. But that's not what happened. He lost the primaries, and the people who won those primaries received the nominations.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

everyone "acting" like he was treated unfairly by the party establishment...

Did you somehow forget that the DNC was caught conspiring with the Clinton campaign?

Did you forget that when they were sued over it the DNC argued in court that they have the right to choose who would be the Democrat nominee? And that the promise to be impartial in their charter was a mere "political promise" (aka a lie) and they were under no obligation to actually be impartial?

No one is "acting" like anything. It's a straight up fact that they admitted to under oath.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

Did the DNC manipulate the vote? Did they override the primary results? Or did the majority of primary voters support Clinton?

Most of the people who bitch and moan about it didn't actually bother to vote in the primary. I voted for Bernie. I was out-voted and instead of crying and refusing to vote I voted for Clinton in the general election because Trump was too dangerous while a bunch of Bernie "supporters" didn't.

Then they got possy with Harris over her objectively-less-bad position on Israel than Trump's, allowing him to win again.

Show up to the primaries to move the party left. But also show up the the general if you lose, because the reality is twice now people's demand of perfection from the Dems has resulted in Trump being president.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're just going to ignore the democratic party coordinating all the candidates to drop and put their support behind Biden while funding a PAC to keep Warren in the race to split votes with Bernie right before super tuesday? Plus having their big media buddies run the story of "the Biden miracle" after getting democratic party stooge Clyburn to endorse Biden and come out ahead in South Carolina (the state that went to Trump in the general election, by the way).

Also, the superdelegates made it look like the lead that Clinton had was so insurmountable that it was pointless to turn out for Bernie.

If you think these have no effect then, by the same logic, you'd think that billionaires spending tons of money on PACs has no effect.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Clyburn endorsed Cuomo. His endorsement can't even swing a mayoral primary anymore. Thank god.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think his endorsement still holds sway in his state of South Carolina, but thankfully it doesn't mean anything in New York.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

It held sway in tx when he endorsed coathanger cuellar.

His influence is waning.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -3 points 1 day ago

People downvoting you: "no, not like that".

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