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No one cares because we are not nationalists. American nationalism is a far right plague. You say you want to oppose the right, but so far you seem to embrace it, using fascistic language.
And Jan 6 was the most pitiful "insurrection" I've ever seen. Don't worry, we will show you a real one.
It is a moral imperative to be a traitor to the United States. You know it's doing a genocide, right? You should be firebombing a JDAM factory.
You say that, but it was also completely successful in the long run. Their guy is president and he pardoned all of them.
I don't think Jan 6 is why Trump is in office right now lol. Jan 6 was a handful of petty bourgeois chuds (one actually frothing at the mouth!) allowed to harrass Congress by the capitol police. It had no direct effect on anything outside of likely making Congress try to get more buddy buddy with their local cops.
It also had the effect of giving Trump's base a group of political prisoners to rally around (as farcical as that was), it kept him and his "movement" relevant when he was out of office, and now that he's pardoned them it has emboldened his freikorps to break even more laws for him because they know he's got their back. I don't think ICE would be as bold if it weren't for J-6th.
I just don't think you can say, for sure, that it played no role in his reelection or in his current ethnic cleansing campaign.
I don't remember anyone rallying around Jan 6ers. They did their "they were just innocent white angels" routine to deflect but they weren't treated like martyrs (which would have been smart).
I don't think there's a connection to ICE outside of Trump showing he will pardon people. ICE has bern like this, it is made up of the worst chuds and has been since its inception. They have been doing fucked up shit and we've had to organize communities against them. There were raids under Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden, and anyone involved in this organizing has been saying chinga la migra for ages. The difference now is that they are using open terror tactics, hiding their faces, and the feds have authorized detentions and even exiling people without due process. That comes from above.
Pardoning the J-6ers came from above too, though. The top-down message that sends is "anything you do in Trump's name is legal" and ICE certainly heard the message.
I don't think it should be written off, is all I'm saying. There's something to learn here.
I suppose, but I'm not being flippant when I say that the lesson is to form armed cadres and doxx ICE agents.
No, it is not a moral imperative to be a traitor to the United States. The Constitution of the United States advocates for Freedoms like Expression, Religion, Defense, Privacy, etc., and those things should be ferociously defended. Nobody should be a traitor against those things, or they are advocates for authoritarianism.
What we should be traitors of is the MAGA Nazi government. They are not following the Constitution, and are an illegitimate government who has hijacked our political infrastructure.
America's original political philosophy of personal freedom, and citizen control over government is still a valid philosophy that should be the dominant philosophy of the world. It is the way bad operatives have twisted it that needs to be resisted. Be traitors to Traitors, not Freedom.
This never existed.
Personal freedom for white slave owning men.
It is an I gave a reason why: it is doing genocide. You ignored that reason. So are you pro-genocide or just dishonest?
To fight for human dignity and rights is to fight against America. America as it is, not as documents tell you it is "supposed" to be. The US does not, in reality, have freedom of exoression, religion, or privacy, though it certainly does have unlimited freedom for the war machine (so long as capital aligns with it). The latter is not a good thing and is part of why you should be against America if you want to think of yourself as a good person.
You should be against genocide and take direct action against it. That would make you a traitor. So, nationalist, you have to make a choice: nationalist embracing genocide or traitor rejecting genocide? You already tacitly told us your answer, but don't you think it is important to have integrity and be honest about your opinions?
Shall we add, "takes action against genocide" to the list of things that liberals think are authorotarian?
Will you firebomb a JDAM factory?
No president has followed the constitution. The political class has been fighting it for their economic masters since its inception even when it enshrines better methods by which they can maintain profits and control. In addition, I cannot emphasize this enough, I do not care about the constitution or what is legal. The legal and moral are not the same thing.
If it were 1860 you'd be complaining about Lincoln violating the constitution to end slavery.
These were already bad faith proclamations in their time made by slaveowners and swindlers. "Citizen control"? You are historically illiterate. Most citizens could not even vote when the Constitution went into effect. Capital has always been in power in the US, whether it was landowners or industrislists or merchants.
If you cared about people controlling their own governments around the world you would oppose the US, which regularly topples other governments and supports dictatorships and fascists.
But you yourself have twisted it, or really, let's be honest, regirgitated some nationalist blue MAGA bullshit you heard and never investigated. You can't even get your own national civic history right!
Those are just words, dog. Some slave owners rhapsodizing about freedom and then codifying and defending chattel slavery does not mean that they are really motivated by caring about freedom. You are just giving the meaningless scribblings of America's original oligarchs a complete mnoopoly on the idea of democracy when we have documentation from them about how they want to limit it and literally the sole reason that things like the Senate exist is to check democracy, something still presented as a good thing in many civics classes today.
works great on paper huh
Are you saying that the country that has spent the last ~80 years sending its military and intelligence forces all across the planet to brutally crush any movement that went against its perceived interests is somehow not "authoritarian"? The country that currently has more than 700 military bases worldwide? That country?
This is exactly what libs believe lmao