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[–] 5too@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

there should be a distinction between offensive and defensive wars.

...that difference is entirely which side of the battle line you're on...

[–] bastion 2 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

yeah, that's why I sidestepped that one. It's an easy pathway into "no, you!"

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Who was the aggressor: Germany or Poland? Israel or Iran? Iraq or the US?

Are you saying that there is no such thing as a right or wrong, good or bad side to a violent conflict?

If so, prove it.

[–] bastion 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, are you just scrapping for a fight?

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I'm saying that it's only "no you!" for bad faith actors. I'd like to think that isnt who we're dealing with in this site.

[–] bastion 1 points 3 weeks ago

ah. In that case, we can all acknowledge that communism and capitalism have both lead to significant wars and violent non-war actions on the populace.

The Korean war, The invasion of Hungary, the invasion of Czechoslovakia, sino/soviet border conflict, Chinese invasion of Vietnam..

..but let's not pretend that war is the end-all be-all of government criminality. We can look at democide, or just atrocious neglect that had occurred quite a few times in communism, add well as abuse of the populace.

..now, I'm not claiming capitalism is good. But Communism isn't some panacea that prevents tensions and violence.

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