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[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 43 points 2 days ago (46 children)

i hate musk, but i am not wild about our dependence on china either, so i am not really sure who to root for in this fight...

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

It would be nice if there was a way to rip out any questionable software/electric components from modern cars and replace it with something open source.

[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 102 points 2 days ago (24 children)

I would say go with whatever company that doesn't have a CEO throwing Nazi salutes.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, the Chinese manufacturers are out to make money, and at least we know what to expect from them.

Besides, being profitable usually means making a better product than your competitors.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't know that they're out to make money though. A lot of the Chinese manufacturers are now struggling due to the price war they instigated themselves. Huge production surplus but they pushed down the price so much they hardly make any money

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Competition is fierce, but they are not exactly struggling due to government subsidies/incentives. These are so extreme that Chinese manufacturers are over producing and dumping "used" EVs with zero mileage for export.

Similar to US agricultural dumping, this is a terrible policy for everyone, except for the beneficiaries of the subsidies, and maybe the overseas consumers who get cheap EVs in the short term.

China's Zero-Mile 'Used' EVs Are Flooding Global Markets - https://insideevs.com/news/763687/china-zero-mile-used-evs/

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think a lot of it is also growing their market share and establishing their brand.

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[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago (11 children)

GASP!

You mean... Proper capitalism!?

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[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Root for better public transport and active cities instead of car dependency :)

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Living in the boonies, I'm never going to get a bus going by every ten minutes so a solid market for good EVs is still what I root for.

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[–] StenSaksTapir@feddit.dk 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The public transport bus I take to and from work is a Chinese made electric. It's a Yutong E15.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I remember that one getting tested in my hometown.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 1 day ago

How common are these in Denmark? 😮 don't feel like I've seen one, but then again it's not like I study the make before I get in the bus

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Buy european? I mean if that's an option.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are lots of EVs by European car manufacturers. The problem is that they have trouble competing on price with the Chinese ones.

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