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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

  • Fascists and Nazis
  • Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
  • “Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
  • A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 50 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

X11 AND Wayland are for degenerates, a distraction at best but mostly just something that wastes CPU cycles and RAM.

THE FUTURE IS TERMINAL!

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

obviously the future is shoving the ethernet cable up your ass and dialing in directly

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago

That would explain 70% of the shit you can find on the internet

[–] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 2 weeks ago

THE FUTURE IS TERMINAL!

The past and present are also terminal.

[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you for this new rabbit hole that thanks to my pathological curiosity for software on the far side of normalcy i now HAVE to explore and waste time i should spend working on a project 😜

[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, your welcome. It's a great rabbit hole. I remember venturing down it for the first time some years ago. I've since been able to build arcan from source and get pipeworld working on void linux. It's not daily drivable yet, (not for me at least) but it works, and it's cool as fuck.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Gotta say, his latest post, Sunsetting Cursed Terminal Emulation, really reminded me of some programming woes you can read from The Unix Haters' Handbook.

terminal emulators aren’t leaky abstractions, they’re quite literally the abstraction being leaked :-D.
\x64k@lobste.rs

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 2 weeks ago

YES! i would love it if arcan/durden/lash-cat9 got some mainstream traction.

[–] jimrob4@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

I have been known to use XMODEM over screen over telnet for file transfer.