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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/23/live-iran-vows-to-respond-to-us-attacks-trump-hints-at-regime-change?update=3795960

UPDATE It has been 2 hours. There is still mixed reporting. According to Reuters, Qatar said Iran had agreed to the ceasefire. The ceasefire has not been confirmed or denied by Iran or Israel. Iran and Israel are still both attacking. Trump's post said that the ceasefire must begin within 6 hours, that would be midnight eastern time.

~~In my own personal judgement, I can not definitively say whether the ceasefire is real or fake.~~

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-announces-israel-iran-ceasefire-2025-06-23/

UPDATE 2 It has been 3 hours since Trump's posts.

Fars News reports that "The ceasefire proposal put forward by U.S. President Donald Trump is completely false and was floated to distract public attention from the recent humiliation suffered by the United States following attacks on its bases in the region." Fars News Agency is managed by the IRGC, therefore I consider it to be reliable on reporting decisions of the Iranian government.

https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1937308597467132090#m

Iran Foreign Minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi says that there is no ceasefire agreement. "As of now, there is NO 'agreement' on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. However, provided that the Israeli regime stops its illegal aggression against the Iranian people no later than 4 am Tehran time, we have no intention to continue our response afterwards."

https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1937313778451763487#m

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[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

As others have said not going to buy this until Israel fulfills their side of it.

The only way I can see that is 1. They were really feeling the pressure from their citizens given the constant strikes from Iran and their economy was at risk of collapse and/or 2. They believe the bombing critically set back Irans ability to acquire nuclear weapons.

I’m a bit surprised Iran went for it given they can’t really trust Israel/US and that it seemed the US wouldn’t get involved more if they just kept the pace of rocket attacks steady without escalating to blocking the strait or something similar.

Either the attacks had a major impact or they would rather take the deal to get the US out of the picture while they push to actually make a nuclear weapon now given that’s the only defense guarantee they can count on.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're missing scenario 3: Iran managed to deplete Israeli AD and destroy a significant number of critical military buildings and Israel doesn't want it to continue and the US isn't willing to start a war to save them.

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

My thought is why not continue to push Israel then if that’s the case?

~~But I guess it’s not relevant since it looks like the ceasefire was a fabrication from trump which isn’t surprising given it didn’t make sense at this point.~~

~~I expect Iran to continue to launch the 20-30 rockets a day that Israel will be forced to expend its limited and expensive interceptors. The war of attrition favors them and hopefully means the US won’t get involved anymore.~~

~~From there it’ll come down to if the US will look to restock them and what Irans response will be if they do.~~

Ceasefire confirmed, I’d expect Iran pushes for nuclear weapons at this point since this isn't the last of aggression they’ll face from Israel.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

It's worth noting that a ceasefire can be a strategic weapon in a war of attrition, so long as you know it's temporary and take the time to re-arm.

We have seen brief (basically unilateral decision by Russia) ceasefires between Russia and Ukraine where Russia takes the opportunity to re-arm/examine strategy and Ukraine just takes any respite they can get.

Iran accessing and potentially relocating weapons currently unusable due to the initial Israeli attack and limited regional air superiority (caved in storages where the actual weapons are fine just inaccessible currently for example) is much more valuable than Israel re-upping their air defense for it to just be depleted again.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Looks like Iran has agreed to a ceasefire

Edit: This turned out to be wrong

Edit2: maybe they want a ceasefire on their own terms?

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago

—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 BREAKING: Semi-official Iranian state media, Fars News, reports that Trump's announcement about Iran agreeing to a ceasefire is completely false, and that Iran will prove this fact 'on the ground' soon

@Middle_East_Spectator

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

I saw a clip recently where a guy pointed out that construction in Israel stopped about 600 days ago, and that it's difficult for Israel to recover from every building Iran destroys, whereas Iran is so big that it doesn't cause their entire country to come to a halt because of Israel's attacks and can recover fairly well.

I genuinely wish Iran wouldn't stop until they could make demands of Israel (would be hilarious if among their demands was that Iranian investigators be allowed into the country to ensure Israel will not break their ceasefire)