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[–] DMCMBFNFF@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What team?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_involvement_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

In a quick glance I find only one mention of Germany:

On 18 August 2011, Barack Obama issued a written statement echoed by the leaders of the UK, France, and Germany, that inter alia said: “The future of Syria must be determined by its people, but President Bashar al-Assad is standing in their way. His calls for dialogue and reform have rung hollow while he is imprisoning, torturing, and slaughtering his own people. We have consistently said that President Assad must lead a democratic transition or get out of the way. He has not led. For the sake of the Syrian people, the time has come for President Assad to step aside."[80][82]

So Obama wrote something—essentially an opinion—that Merkel agreed with.

I didn’t understand what you were saying in your previous post.

I figured. But which part? The steps themselves or their connection?

Let's say the connection: what significant role did Merkel, play in the fall of Assad?

If anything, she indirectly helped it by helping to drain some of the Sunnis away from Syria.

It doesn’t, though now I know a little bit more about the distribution of the Shiites.

Have you read it all? This is the threat:

No: the article is long, and I've already spent much time replying to replies ITT: it's summer, and here in Toronto, it's about 1:50 PM (EDT) (and currently 33°C), and there's some grass that I might want to see. Maybe later.

In 2014, Qods Force Chief Qassem Suleimani outlined Ali Khamenei’s strategy of toppling the Arab governments, through military insurgencies waged by Iran-backed Khomeinist militants. Explaining that Iran’s goal was to occupy "

I don't see that in the linked article.

With Syria under control, Iran cannot do that.

Why would Iran want Assad overthrown? I thought they were friends.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar%E2%80%93Turkey_pipeline

Syria was allied with Russia and opposed the pipeline to maintain Russian influence.

Isn't this (or at least was) the same Russia that exported natural gas to Germany?

Was this the same Assad regime that made deals with Islamic State regarding petroleum, even though they fought each other?

Is this the same Turkey that could probably use this pipeline as another source of natural gas, even if they would have to deal with the Assad gang?

Merkel was outplayed because the industry that needs the gas is moving abroad. She wanted both pipelines and now there are none.

If so, then at least it's not her problem anymore.

Btw, kudos to Germany on developing alternatives such as solar and wind. 😁🙂

I suppose many on the German Left would be even more brave and generous, and perhaps their time in the chancellery will come.

She was not brave.

Braver than Orbán, Obama, or Canada's Harper at any rate.

The increase in crime is used to introduce the Palantir surveillance state.

Hasn't the crime gone down?

FWIW,

wp:Immigration and crime in Germany

The Independent reported that in 2017 crime in Germany was at its lowest for 30 years, and that crimes by non-Germans had fallen by 23% to just over 700,000.[27] At the same time, there was a significant increase in politically and racially motivated crime. Out of 462 right-wing offenders with outstanding warrants identified by Germany's Interior Ministry, 104 were wanted for crimes classified as violent and 106 were wanted for crimes classified as politically motivated.[7]

The culturally split society will be unable to oppose the dismantling of the welfare state.

even if all the splinters oppose that?

Using left policies to achieve right objectives.

It happens. It might have been largely what made Elon Musk, the richest Nazi in history, rich.

Look closely why Iran has an Islamic regime.

IIUC, pro-West and pro-Soviet forces were kind of played out in revolutionary Iran.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If anything, she indirectly helped it by helping to drain some of the Sunnis away from Syria.

We have to disagree here. At worst they work the jobs freed by Shiite soldiers but I think many can be turned into soldiers themselves.

No: the article is long

I don’t see that in the linked article.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Crescent

Overview

​With Syria under control, Iran cannot do that.

Why would Iran want Assad overthrown?

They don't. From the western point of view: We control Syria now which prevents Iran from supplying Lebanon.

Isn’t this (or at least was) the same Russia that exported natural gas to Germany?

Yes. With the availability of Qatar gas there would be no need for Russian gas, thus lower profits for Russia.

Hasn’t the crime gone down?

Doesn't matter.

even if all the splinters oppose that?

Of course then the dismantling can be prevented. Would you bet on unity?

IIUC

you do