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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 37 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

That's why objective facts are always presented correctly.

Here's me looking at the hallucinated discography of a band that never existed and nodding along.

[–] Honytawk 2 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago) (1 children)

There are no objective facts about a band that never existed, that is the point.

Ask them about things that do have enough overwhelming information, and you will see it will be much more correct.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 points 52 minutes ago

But not 100%. And the things they hallucinate can be very subtle. That's the problem.

If they are asked about a band that does not exist, to be useful they should be saying "I'm sorry, I know nothing about this". Instead they MAKE UP A BAND, ITS MEMBERSHIP, ITS DISCOGRAPHY, etc. etc. etc.

But sure, let's play your game.

All of the information on Infected Rain is out there, including their lyrics. So is all of the information on Jim Thirwell's various "Foetus" projects. Including lyrics.

Yet ChatGPT, DeepSeek, and Claude will all three hallucinate tracks, or misattribute them, or hallucinate lyrics that don't exist to show parallels in the respective bands' musical themes.

So there's your objective facts, readily available, that LLMbeciles are still completely and utterly fucking useless for.

So they're useless if you ask about things that don't exist and will hallucinate them into existence on your screen.

And they're useless if you ask about things that do exist, hallucinating attributes that don't exist onto them.

They. Are. Fucking. Useless.

That people are looking at these things and saying "wow, this is so accurate" terrifies the living fuck out of me because it means I'm surrounded not by idiots, but by zombies. Literally thoughtless mobile creatures.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe they're just way underground and you've never heard of them

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I made the band up to see if LLMbeciles could spot that this is not a real band.

Feel free to look up the band 凤凰血, though, and tell me how "underground" it is.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Does this count?

Also, by nature of being underground they would be difficult to look up. Some bands have no media presence, not even a Bandcamp or a SoundCloud.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Nope.

You can tell because they're not even in the same writing system. Future tip there.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why would that matter? Band names are frequently translated and transliterated.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 2 points 51 minutes ago

Dude. Go be reply guy somehwere else. You bore the fuck out of me.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Are you having this argument on the principle of defending the undergrounded-ness of bands, or do you actually believe LLMs always get the facts straight?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, more of an exercise in scientific skepticism. It's, possible that an obscure band with that name was mentioned deep in some training data that's not going to come up in a search. LLMs certainly hallucinate, but not always.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 hours ago

An obscure band with that name that has a discography that nobody's ever heard of anywhere, complete with band member names, track titles, etc?

Yeah, pull the other one, Sparky. It plays "Jingle Bells".