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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 20 points 17 hours ago

Who's gonna exercise that righteous violence? Far right Islamic groups?

Last I checked, the Israelis are the ones instigating violence and Hamas and Iran are retaliating

The only reason why these "far-right Islamic" groups are fighting is because Israel started it

Neither you or me are in the position of power here. Resort to violence is necessary when it's agentic.

Again, this doesn't answer my question of how exactly people are supposed to stop Israel without violence

Israel is literally starting the unnecessary violence, Hamas and Iran are responding with necessary violence because otherwise Israel would kill them all without a second thought. I can't think of anything more agentic than that

We can collectively fantasize about hanging up Bibi on the street but it's not what's gonna happen. More so, if it were to happen, that fantasy would lead us to cheer the power that hung up Bibi, making us effectively blind to how bad this new power is.

Yeah, he'll either die cowering in a bunker or flee to the USA and get the VIP treatment. But the genocide of Palestinians would stop

I don't know about you, but the group that stops a genocide would have the moral high ground regardless of whether or not you think they're bad

And in this circumstance, Iran certainly has the moral high ground over Israel and Hamas even more so

You're basically arguing for nothing but allowing Israel to continue mass murder but attempting to dress it up with vaguely progressive sounding terms and liberal concepts of "But what if the people who stopped the genocide were somehow worse than the people committing genocide, did you ever think of that? berdly-smug"

It's pure hugger-muggery