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[–] StonerCowboy@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People here so full of shit. I just reimaged my lenovo t570 with windows 11 took less then 10mins to install. Another 5 to remove all the bs built in software like solitaire Cortana etc and then another 10-15 to apply all windows updates. Bam done.

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, sure. But I don't run a shop anymore and just picked up an off the shelf machine from a retailer.

Turned it on, connected it to wifi, then it took forever to try and update itself, which failed, required another reboot, then made me sign in, which also failed, needed a reboot

I dont want a fucking ms account, I don't want to wait for every update, just ask my name and take me to the desktop

[–] StonerCowboy@lemm.ee -1 points 19 hours ago

Sounds like a personal skill issue. Especially if you bought some crappy off the shelf laptop.

Also you dont need any of that to use windows so again pushing false narrative since you can use windows with an offline account perfectly fine. Since I use mine for school and dont sign into Microsoft.

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Takes a lot more to fully deshittify it, though. I've been down that road. So much registry diving, so many third party apps, strongarming uninstallations of bloatware through brute force, and just all around weeks of work.

When the screenshot shit was announced the first time, I just got tired of looking for workarounds to disable or remove Microsoft's active attempts of policing, spying, and triple-dip profiting off it's paying customers.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Install the IoT version, that comes without any of the bloat and works just fine. Not even the Microsoft store is bundled in.

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have heard about the IoT version. I'd have to look more into it, but I doubt I'm going back now that I've learned so much about Linux. I can troubleshoot most of Arch without touching the docs or asking online now, so it really defeats the purpose of switching back.

I also enjoy putting in a little effort to get things working. That's the thing about Linux. Most people that daily drive it get a dopamine release from tinkering with it and fixing things, and I'm one of those people.

I know there has been a big "its for everyone" push these days, but its really not. So I'm glad the IoT version exists for those that want or need it.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah Linux is great, no doubt. I've been using Xubuntu since forever, never really touched Arch, but fundamentally if you know your way around one system, you'll manage another.

Still, there are a bunch of applications that I must run under Windows, so it's good to have the no frills version available for that.

[–] snowfalldreamland@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where does one purchase a single license for windows 10 iot lts? Isn't that only for volume purchases by large enterprises?

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, I'm not sure why anybody is mentioning Windows IoT. When you lookup where to buy this, Microsoft themselves tell you to call or email a salesman; it's an enterprise-only thing. Recommending this for individuals is misguided.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

You can even skip step 2 by using one of the IoT editions (either Win10 or Win11) which come minus the prepackaged bloatware.

Microsoft is mostly interested in making everything bullshit for home users. If you convince them you're an enterprise customer, preferably by running up the old Jolly Roger, suddenly your life is a lot easier.