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I've tried coding and every one I've tried fails unless really, really basic small functions like what you learn as a newbie compared to say 4o mini that can spit out more sensible stuff that works.

I've tried explanations and they just regurgitate sentences that can be irrelevant, wrong, or get stuck in a loop.

So. what can I actually use a small LLM for? Which ones? I ask because I have an old laptop and the GPU can't really handle anything above 4B in a timely manner. 8B is about 1 t/s!

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[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (28 children)

Currently I've been using a local AI (a couple different kinds) to first - take the audio from a Twitch stream; so that I have context about the conversation, convert it to text, and then use a second AI; an LLM fed the first AIs translation + twitch chat and store 'facts' about specific users so that they can be referenced quickly for a streamer who has ADHD in order to be more personable.

That way, the guy can ask User X how their mothers surgery went. Or he can remember that User K has a birthday coming up. Or remember that User G's son just got a PS5 for Christmas, and wants a specific game.

It allows him to be more personable because he has issues remembering details about his users. It's still kind of a big alpha test at the moment, because we don't know the best way to display the 'data', but it functions as an aid.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Surely none of that uses a small LLM <= 3B?

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes. The small LLM isn't retrieving data, it's just understanding context of text enough to know what "Facts" need to be written to a file. I'm using the publicly released Deepseek models from a couple of months ago.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Some questions and because you don't actually understand, also, the answers.

  • what does the LLM understand the context of, (other user's data owned by Twitch)
  • How is the LLM fed that data? (You store it and feed it to the LLM)
  • Do you use Twitch's data and its users data through an AI without their consent? (Most likely, yes)
  • Do you have consent from the users to store 'facts' about them (You're pissy, so obviously not)
  • Are you then storing that processed data? (Yes, you are, written to a file)
  • Is the purpose this data processing commercial (Yes, it is, designed to increase viewer count for the user of this system - and before you retort "OMG it helps twitch too"... Uhm no, Twitch has the viewers if not watching him, watching someone else)

I mean yeah, it's a use case, but own up to the fact that you're wrong. Or be pissy. I don't care.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

So this wasn't a post actually asking what a small LLM was good for, it was just an opportunity you could use to dump on LLM usage I take it. So this whole thing was made in bad faith?

With the comments about "vibe coding" and such, all it looks like you're doing here is arguing the "merits" of how it's being used, and you're not interested in its actual usage at all.

Nobody is being pissy here except you. Small LLMs can be used for tasks such as this, and it doesn't have to be twitch - It could be an assistant that you build for reminders in your personal life - using it on twitch is a minor detail that you seem to have latched onto because you just want to dump on LLM usage.

Go to /c/fuck_ai for that.

I gave you an example that it's good for, and all you want to do is argue the merits of how I'm using it (even though it falls perfectly within Twitches TOS and use cases)

[–] catty@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

You're conflating me asking how to use these tools with you who's misusing them. I see you still don't accept what you're doing is wrong. But go you.

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