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[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Really? The total time period for migrating the account was something like 3 years, they sent emails reminding you about it, and mentioned it in the launcher. I don't know what else they could have been expected to do?

They couldn't just "migrate everyone's accounts" because there's no obvious way to do that. Simple example: Let's say you bought Minecraft for yourself and your two kids so you could play together. These were little kids, and Mojang accounts aren't uniquely tied to an email address so they all have the same email address. MS accounts use email address as username. Without asking the user, which of the three accounts gets tied to that email address, and what happens to the other two? What about cases where the Mojang account is for an email address that doesn't have a Microsoft account? What if it already does, but the email address on the Mojang account is an older email they no longer use or even have access to and just never bothered to update because the email on your Mojang account was only really relevant to recover your password? Etc, etc, etc.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think forcing people to have a Microsoft account is the underlying issue there. I see no reason why they couldn't have allowed users to have an ms account and then just have the Minecraft account be a link to either a ms account or a standard mojang account.

I think they just wanted more personal data and ms accounts to gloat about to shareholders.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As soon as MS bought it, I think everyone could see it moving to an MS account as an obvious next step. MS had been building themselves up as a gaming brand for years and running two separate authentication services is going to seem like an unnecessary cost to their bean counters.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that still be one auth service that looks at one of two db tables though?

I didn't really see it coming because I didn't even realize there were Microsoft accounts until shortly before the migration. When I was then forced to migrate I found out that I apparently alrealready had a Microsoft account that I luckily had the password written down for, all in all a horrible experience in my opinion.

Also the fact that you need to mod the game to avoid telemetry nowadays is just sad.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn’t really see it coming because I didn’t even realize there were Microsoft accounts until shortly before the migration.

Really? MS had consolidated their online services into one login/authentication system years beforehand. Hotmail, Outlook,com, XBOX Live, etc all use the same accounts. It's why I expected they would do that, they'd done it with everything else they owned.

You have to mod everything to avoid telemetry nowadays. I'd be surprised if my dishwasher wasn't quietly sending data to Samsung at this point.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I never had accounts for any of those.

Also not many but some few games have opt in telemetry. Now that I think about it I'm unsure how many games that I play have telemetry but they mostly are offline games (like Minecraft can be) which shouldn't have telemetry. I should really check some of them.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What? No it's not hard to do, all they had to do was port the info into a DB and sit on it...they could have used the same DB that they use for the accounts now. Then the second someone returns it kicks off the same process that happened when this whole migration thing began long time ago. I've handled plenty of account migrations throughout my time and they're not rocket science.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve handled plenty of account migrations throughout my time and they’re not rocket science.

...and all those account migration systems are kept running in perpetuity just in case someone with an account last used in June 2009 happens to try logging in sometime in 2030? That feels like a lot of legacy systems to maintain for very little benefit.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You move the account...and reset the password. People want access they go through proving they have access to the email. You all are acting like it's hard to move info from one DB to another.

They did it for greed, stop defending M$

[–] Honytawk 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is not how databases work.

It would cause all kinds of issues. And then they would get tons of criticism by people like you that it doesn't work perfectly.

Windows has enough backwards compatibility they have to work around. Lets not add games to it as well.

No, 3 years of free upgrades is more than enough.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Lol that's exactly how DBs work. The hell do you think they keep account info? On randys note pad?

People paid for the game. Period. This is like someone buying a physical copy and because they didn't go and get the new copy the old one stops working.

Some simps for Microsoft here apparently.