And in order to do that, they ended up making the show absolute hot garbage for everyone. Now the people being satirized will not watch it, and the people laughing at the people being satirized don't want to watch it anymore.

I think the point is that satire is incredibly hard to pull off while telling a compelling story, and the more compelling it is, the more likely it's just going to be a cultural artifact through which a group of people can laugh at another group. Maybe the point of satire is catharsis, rather than changing minds.

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

Oh, I fully believe the point of satire is catharsis. I was more playing with the idea presented here:

If you're too subtle, the satirical aspect is lost on the target audience that you're making fun of

If that is a requirement for good satire, you're likely not seeing it outside of clownish representations as just about anything short will likely have support from the group in question. i.e. Starship Troopers as you mentioned or the earlier seasons of The Boys.

I do think you can do a form of clownish representation that is compelling as well narratively, but you likely have to start from that point as well as have an extremely strong pen.