Cross-posted from "Nina going off today" by @seahorse@midwest.social in !antifascism@midwest.social
this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2025
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This is like saying, "If you're going to be wrongly accused of a crime, you may as well commit it"...just to prove them right?
Not sure how this advice does anything other than give Trump exactly what he wants.
Look if I was gonna be falsely accused of assault and knew for a fact that there was nothing I could do about it in court I might beat the shit out of the accusor. Trump is gonna get what he wants whether we like it or not. Fascism is inevitable and Trump is only a symptom of that process
It's not inevitable.
But it will be hard to break it. People need to act, stand up, make their voices heard and make being on the MAGA side seem petty, childish and weak.
Break their fantasy of power and ideals.
Don't do the thing you want to do to try to stop the bad thing happening, because they'll use your wanting to stop it as justification whether or not you act on it. Better to just sit back and let it happen, right?
(It's already happened though, since he's now federalising national guard against State's wishes it's basically now military dictatorship, the rope just hasn't finishing tightening yet.)
No one is saying, "just sit back and let it happen". Only, "Don't do exactly what they want, and call it "resistance"".
Any form of resistance will be made an excuse.
And no resistance won't stop them.
Support needs to be sapped, and most importantly at this point work on emotionally connecting with soldiers so that guardsmen are more loyal to ideals and citizenry than the nutter-in-chief.
If you really believe that, then you must know that attacking them isn't going to get you there. They need to see that what they're doing is wrong. And the only way to do that, is to make sure their orders are unjustified.
I think there's a lot of space between peaceful and don't directly attack the guardsmen.
Maybe I've been too inundated by people who think graffiti or smashing windows of targeted buildings is "too violent"... Meanwhile guardsmen are already shooting reporters and protesters without provocation.
Takes a lot of balls to go full on MLK and hope that the forces brutalise kids... But maybe that's what is needed. Then again, MLK could hope that federal forces would step in to keep the peace, not push for escalation and killings.
At this point, at least they're still using rubber bullets. But, that's the entire plan at the moment...keep shooting non-lethal rounds until someone shoots back.
Then...the safeties come off, and a lot of people die. It all depends on how long the protesters can keep their shit together before someone changes the nature of the conflict.
Right now, most of those soldiers are not going to be ok shooting civilians. But the instant they're getting shot at, there are no civilians anymore. Just targets.
There needs to be a consideration of empathy on the other side. If the oppressors lack empathy and escalates everything, everything you do will be "doing exactly what they want."
I disagree. Keeping these protest peaceful, is exactly what the Trump administration doesn't want. If they are looking for a justification to escalate the situation, then NOT giving them one, makes it that much harder for them to accomplish their objectives. Every single opportunity to prove them wrong about what they are doing, is a victory. It needs to be demonstrated at every turn.