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Real question, i can't seem to figure out.
How did the left abandon these people?
Gay rights, they're a religious group that is just as intolerant as the Saudis or Pakistan.
America doesn't have a mainstream left party.
It has a status quo party (Democrats) and a fascist party (Republicans).
Clearly the status quo sucks for most Americans, so they're more tempted by fascist alternatives.
"Things are kinda bad, maybe they'll get better if they get worse."
they can't get representation like they could have if they had their own party and could win their own seats
Run-off voting would prevent the worst by turning the presidential elections into FPTP while the rest remain free to vote for your preferred party
For example, you could vote for Somalia Concerns Concord and it could win a seat or two from new York or California, then vote for Democrats when the 2nd presidential vote is held because no party had a majority beforehand
FPTP is a trash system
you didn't read anything I said
And if you did, you missed the point
Point was: prevent the worst by using this system, which can easily be adopted by any government that originally had a FPTP system into a system with two elections for electing seats and another for run-off presidential elections
Though, because of gerrymandering and how the system for electing seats may still be FPTP, it'll still be damn awful
I think Britain uses this system for something to research if you're interested
They do and it's absolute dogshit, as a country that has more than 2 parties present in Parliament, which a healthy democracy should have, mathematically majority of the country is going to end up with an unwanted prime minister, usually 1 of the 2 largest parties. CGP Grey n veritasium explained the maths behind it and why it's mathematically less democratic than proportional representation
The states have it as well but on the extreme end, where it's a duopoly shared by two both shit and corrupt parties.
Yeah, it's ass, I was thinking of CGP Gray when I thought of Britain, but I would say it isn't as ass as USA, the there are obvious and large(r) alternative parties available if they ever become big enough
(I am not British nor American)